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Team Canada Rocks!
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tyaskin, MD
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Boat: Squidnation
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Comittee Boat Comittee Boat
The report on the Meltons's Forum and the report that Finnseeker made yesterday about granders being caught on or the same day or maybe one day apart got me thinking. Now granted they are half a world apart and in differnent oceans but indulge me for a minute and read on.
Last year during the WMO their was a 1hr minute span in the washington canyon where 5 Blue Marlin over 500lbs were raised. Coincidence? The year before on just a fun day the Espadon and the Billfisher both hooked up to Blue's estaimated at over 700lbs at the same time. How many times during a tournament do you here chatter and silence for hours on end and then all of a sudden the cries for the comittee boat come in droves with a release here and a release there. I think it was two years ago it was one of those crazy days on the water where the radio waves were all in line and we could hear boats as far away as hatteras. It was a fairly slow day when all of a sudden we heard of three boats releasing whites in the baltimore, then a blue in the washington, 2 in the norfolk, a blue at the Point, and a triple of white at the 000's off carolina. How bout the 3 granders and one near grander caught on the moon out of OI many years ago. I think that was over a 48 hour period. Now some of these can be attributed to the moon but not all. Can someone please clue us in the the feed clock that these fish have and how does it seem to cross date lines, tides, moons, hemispheres and season. Or am I just off my rocker and its all a coincidence |
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Stop staring at my Avatar.
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I always thought it was interesting to fish a tournament where you have a large pack of boats working a relatively small area--the Los Suenos tournaments come to mind, where you can scan the horizon and count 20, 30 or more boats around you at one time--and then to see when "the bite" turns on.
All of the sudden, you're raising fish and getting bit, and then you look around and there are puffs of black smoke from half (or more) of the vessels in the fleet. The radio is alive with calls of released fish. Something definitely happens, whether it's the moon, the bait rising to the surface, a change in the tide or whatever, but it's like flicking a lightswitch--when it's on, it's on and they chew like gangbusters. And then after a while, it's off again. It would be very interesting to compare the logs of boats fishing the East Coast to see if "the bite" turns on the same time in the NE canyons as it does off Hatteras, Charleston, Jacksonville and Stuart... And I'm not talking about one of those steady pick kind of days where you catch a few all day long--I'm talking about those days where you find the right water, bait stacked up, frigates whirling, but nothing's biting. So you decide not to move but just pound it out, knowing that the fish are there and will eventually go on the chew... |
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If Ignorance is bliss, Why aren't more people happy?
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Raleigh, MHC
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Occupation: Supporting my Tackle habit
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
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i am guessing the guys with those mystery black books in the helm and under their couch cushion have an answer but they would never share it with us..
![]() ![]() if you fish 200 days a year and can fish all the moons and such you will eventually learn the migration i assume.. i doubt i will ever have that opportunity to do that but i do try to write down as much as i can!! maybe one day in like 20 years i will have it all down pat! but i doubt it! this is an awesome topic and i hope some of you damn ol' salts who are all tuned in can help us out with this and really keep this thread alive!! good post mr pino!! |
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Got fish
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Nags Head
Posts: 190
Boat: Haphazard 61' Holton
Home Port: Manteo, NC
Best Catch: Grand Slams
Occupation: Mate
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[QUOTE=Squidnation;488193]
How bout the 3 granders and one near grander caught on the moon out of OI many years ago. I think that was over a 48 hour period. There was only one grander caught it was a 1020 by the Fight n Lady with Capt Sam Stokes. The other 3 were a 958 caught on the Billfisher with Capt Mike Merritt. A 813 and a 793 both caught on the Best Revenge with Capt Bull Tolson. And it was a three day period from Aug 20-22 1987. |
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Sit down Shut up And fish
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bermuda
Posts: 501
Boat: 37' Duffy - "Wound Up"
Home Port: Fairylands Creek
Best Catch: 1,100lb, 1,049 lb Blue marlin
Occupation: Charter and Commercial Fisherman
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there's no way it's..
..a coincidence
July 27th '01 - Capt. Alan Card on the 'Challenger' hook up to a Blue Marlin on Challenger Bank. They boated the fish - 1,199 lbs. 20 minutes after they hook up, Capt. Allen DeSilva and I hook a fish on Argus Bank on 'DeMako' that we released and called 1,100 +. July 7th '07 - Right before we hooked the 1,049# , the 'Jacs' released a fish that sounded all of 900#. Around the same time, on the other end of the island the 'Last Stall' broke the leader on a fish they called 1,200#. Both of these years, these 4 Granders were the only ones brought to the leader in Bermuda. 2 Granders in the same season, both caught on the same day, twice in 6 years...something to think about.. Last edited by Wound Up James; 02-08-2009 at 03:08 PM. |
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Anthony's Ark is a blowboater
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 317
Best Catch: 400lbs black, 500lbs blue, 750 mako, sail on the fly, 750 tiger, 150 yellowfin, 500lbs bluefin
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Great facts James!
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Master of all things wet
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Plywood State
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Bill... great question... I had grander class releases in the Hudson a year apart in same condition same general spot. I had one a couple years later near the 461 and havn't seen a slob like that since...
What triggers the switch? Who knows. I know some turn ons and turn offs just seem to happen for no reason... The wildest twenty four hours of my life was like that. I had a fresh group fly in about noon. We had fished that morn with a couple dolphin and a mystery billfish bite. We got to our good area about 1:00 before thesun set on us we had six blues and two whites. All the fish were small. I told the guys they would never see that kind of bite ever again. The next morn the condition had gone to slick calm from the 2-4 we had the day before. The bite was still on fire... We raised eight blues catching four, getting spooled by two and pulling two off along with going three for six on whites. Then almost exactly twenty four hours after the bite started it came to a grinding halt. The next day was back to a pick here and there...We worked another spot near there one day. Three hours without a bite then the whites turned on. We raised something like sixteen in three hours. Across the pocket in other areas the bite was on too... One guy had sails rounded up at the same time in the corner. Then it too went dead... I've had old timers tell me barometer does it. I don't know for sure... |
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Sit down Shut up And fish
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bermuda
Posts: 501
Boat: 37' Duffy - "Wound Up"
Home Port: Fairylands Creek
Best Catch: 1,100lb, 1,049 lb Blue marlin
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Greg - Think that on both of those days, all of those bites happened w/in an hour of each other.....not sure about Kona, Maderia, Brazil or the Azores, but a large % of these true sea monsters over here have been seen day's prior to being caught. They show themselves, take a swipe and/or follow a lure for a while before fading off. Then a few days later in the same spot, there is something that triggers these big fish to bite, often w/ reckless abandon.. They've proven themselves to be a lot smarter than the smaller Blues, but once and a while they have there week moments.
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