Old 06-05-2008, 02:53 PM   #1
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Calstar Boomer Help

I'm having CMS build a pair of 6' standup tuna/shark rods. Here's what I'm trying to do: Calstar Boomer Jrs to Aftco Short Curved storabutts with a spare straight butt. These will be matched with 50Ws running 80# spectra/mono. The short curved Aftco storabutt and optional straight butts will work perfect for both trolling and chunking. We switch up a lot and my CC doesn't have room for tons of rods/gear.

The short butts for stand-up gear limit options to Aftco #2 or #4s, The #2s are little shorter which work better for a standup rod. In the end, it comes down to the size of the blank. It looks like the blanks need to be cut to match up with the Aftco Ferrules. WTF? Since these are very fast action rods, it might be OK to cut the bottom of the blank to fit the aftco parts. I'm looking for any recs/help before they start work. Note, I prefer 6' (total length) rods so I can reach around the outboards.

Here's snippets from the vendor specs:
Calstar:
Model Length Butt* Tip Line Action Recommendations
BOOMER Jr. 5 1/2' 1.125 12 50-100 2X-FAST S/T 60-80 LB.
BAJA BOOMER 5 1/2' 1.175 14 60-130 2X-FAST S/T 80-100 LB.

AftcoFerrules:
FIT UNIBUTTS & STORABUTTS I.D. O.D. CATALOG #
All #2 Models 0.875" 0.970" FERRULE2
All #4 Models 1.000" 1.133" FERRULE4

Aftco Storabutts:
DESCRIPTION I.D. O.D. CATALOG #
#SB2 50-lb. Curved 0.875" 0.970" SBC2
#SB2 50-lb. Straight, Short 0.875" 0.970" SBS2
#SB2 50-lb. Curved, Short 0.875" 0.970" SBSC2
#SB4 80-lb. Straight 1.000" 1.133" STORABUTT4
#SB4 80-lb. Curved 1.000" 1.133" SBC4
#SB4 80-lb. Curved, Short 1.000" 1.133" SBSC4

Aftco Unibutts (I'm going with storabutts but added this to show the lengths)
STRAIGHT MODELS
DESCRIPTION CLASS LENGTH I.D. O.D. CATALOG #
#UB2* Short 30-50 Lbs. 17.76" 0.875" 0.970" UNIBUTTS2
#UB2* 30-50 Lbs. 19.76" 0.875" 0.970" UNIBUTT2
#UB4 80 Lbs. 22.82" 1.000" 1.133" UNIBUTT4
CURVED MODELS
#UB2 Curved, Short 30-80 Lbs. 19.76" 0.875" 0.970" UNIBUTTSC2
#UB2 Curved 30-50 Lbs. 26.76" 0.875" 0.970" UNIBUTTC2
#UB4 Curved 80 Lbs. 27.83" 1.000" 1.133" UNIBUTTC4
#UB4 Curved, Short 80 Lbs. 22.82" 1.000" 1.133" UNIBUTTSC4
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:30 PM   #2
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i am not sure what you are asking

i do my GIANT STANDUP with the boomer series, great blanks, basicaly unbreakable, cheap price. and very "charter" friendly
the GSU i do has a slick butt and aftco seat,
and we cut the blank both ends (family recipe)

all you would need to do is take the reelseat and slick butt off mine and add a #2 UNI, or stora
thats what your looking for 6' OAL

if you have a builder he should be helping you
thats what you are paying for..
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:58 PM   #3
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here is the boomer
the stora would go where the reelseat and slickbutt are
then make OAL 6'
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Paul, that's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks, man. And yes, the rod builder called me this AM to discuss. What I wasn't sure about is how much gets cut and where. Did you sand the butt section down or just cut? Then the guides. The original plan was a stripper plus 4 guides. Shoe and I were just talking and thinking stay with the stripper plus 4. I noticed your pics show a stripper plus 3. I'm all ears. Very nice looking rods! You do nice work.

PS Maybe I'll just get a stripper and save some cash
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this rod is just the blank cut both ends..maybe 5' OAL..a effing monster
he can cut and sand if needed
you should be good with 4+1

PS..ever try 2 strippers
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PS..ever try 2 strippers
No comment. After all, this is the internet

Thanks, man. I'll give them a call 1st thing in the AM and let them start cutting.
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No comment. After all, this is the internet

Thanks, man. I'll give them a call 1st thing in the AM and let them start cutting.
This is the rodbuilding board , most rodbuilders know that it ok to admit you have 2 strippers on your rod
its NEW, i am not sure if it worth while, but i guess you should at least try it
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Chumtini - don't be afraid to cut down your blanks. Lay out the butt, blank, fore grip and guides all together on a bench and move the parts around until you get the set up and length you want. Could be stripper + 4, 3 or 2 strippers, whatever it is you think is right for you. Don't forget you can cut down the grip too.

I have used a rod with 3 strippers on it, was a short broomstick made to haul up big nasty swordfish. It performed well under heavy load that night though I doubt I'll build one with more than one stripper unless a client demanded it. The higher above the rod the line is the more torsion you will get so I dont think there is much to gain with more than one stripper. My $ .02

Here's the rod loaded up on a swordie-
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