NEED HELP.. should a captain take your tip or ???

hardcore_offshore · 04-20-2009, 10:56 AM

i am just curious should a captain take your tip after a day of fishing or should the captain tell the clients to give it directly to the mate? i recently encountered this an i am just curious thats all ? any advice or help would be greatly appreciated...just kinda confused an throwing this question out there i am confused as i have never had this happen to me before..ive always gotten my tip directly from the customer that way there is no question wether your being short changed or not just curious...

sea_dawg · 04-20-2009, 12:18 PM

I have recieved them both ways, but typically the crew tips me directly, though if I am busy cleaning fish or something they will give to the captain and that is not a problem for me. I have a lot of trust for him and have a hard time believing that he would short me. I guess there is a trust factor that needs to be established in your situation. Me personally if I didnt trust the captain I wouldnt work for him.

hardcore_offshore · 04-20-2009, 12:54 PM

thats the problem the people came back as i was cleaning the boat an asked me if the 200 dollar tip was enuff ? i said i didnt get nowhere near that much so there i am looking like a idiot an a fool...an here i am asking myself what in the hell have i gotten myself into ? i went through this once before with another captain he was takin anything over my 20 percent of the tip...guess i need to re-evaluate the whole situation...thanks for the advice...

costaricasportfishing · 04-20-2009, 01:12 PM

Sounds like you need to find another job if you can't trust your Capt.

floridadeckie · 04-20-2009, 01:26 PM

how about you go and confront the captain about it. dont make a fight out of it, simply express your concern and ask him to explain the discrepency. if he is skimming your tips with out your knowledge, thats a issue you definitely need to address with him. My advice, sit down with the captain and have a civilized and fair discussion with him. If he wont explain his position to you and wants to be a dick, jump ship or make sure you get the tip before he does.

sea_dawg · 04-20-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by floridadeckie

how about you go and confront the captain about it. dont make a fight out of it, simply express your concern and ask him to explain the discrepency. if he is skimming your tips with out your knowledge, thats a issue you definitely need to address with him. My advice, sit down with the captain and have a civilized and fair discussion with him. If he wont explain his position to you and wants to be a dick, jump ship or make sure you get the tip before he does.

I agree with what you said, but even still I think I would try to find a spot on another boat and discuss the tipping situation with the future captian.

floridadeckie · 04-20-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sea_dawg

I agree with what you said, but even still I think I would try to find a spot on another boat and discuss the tipping situation with the future captian.

yup. thats one thing i've learned, EVERYTHING is to be discussed and decided upon before even setting foot on the boat. Try to get it in writing if at all possible. As soon as you notice an issue, address it and come to a solution before it becomes a big problem

seapower · 04-20-2009, 02:39 PM

I can't speak for the Charter Community, as I've never charter fished. But I've owned a few commercial rig's for a good number of year's, worked alot of crew's. In my own opinion it work's both way's. I don't care how good a deckhand was ,if I couldn't trust him it was "pack your rag's". A crew has to be able to trust the Capt completely. If you don't ,you already know the answer. If he'll steal from you ,he'll lie to you, neither are good. Frank

MARLINMASTER1422 · 04-26-2009, 07:35 PM

As for the fact that he took ur money that's bull shit if u can't trust him with ur money how can u trust him with ur life its in his hands when ur wireing a big fish u need to find a new rig. As for my operation if they give me the tip I count it and make sure its enough then give it to my mate and if they give it to him I ask hin how much it was so if its not I would get him more its the capt job to make sure that the mates get enough

WAHOONBOX · 04-26-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hardcore_offshore

i am just curious should a captain take your tip after a day of fishing or should the captain tell the clients to give it directly to the mate? i recently encountered this an i am just curious thats all ? any advice or help would be greatly appreciated...just kinda confused an throwing this question out there i am confused as i have never had this happen to me before..ive always gotten my tip directly from the customer that way there is no question wether your being short changed or not just curious...

IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING SHORT CVHANGED THEN YOU ARE WORKING FOR THE WRONG MAN....IF HE WILL SHORT CHANGE YOUR TIP THEN HE WILL CERTAINLY SHORT CHANGE YOU WHEN IT COMES TO FINDING FISH!

ON THE OTHER HAND.....WHEN ONE GOES TO A RESTAURANT AND EATS DINNER....DOES ONE PAY THE RESTARAUNT MANGER THE TIP? SHIT NO THEY DON'T SO CHARTER CLIENTS SHOULD ALWAYS SHOW THE MATE THEY APPRECIATE HIS HARD WORK IF IN FACT HE WORKED HIS ASS OFF AND HAND HIM HIS TIP DIRECTLY

EVERY TIME MY TIP HAS BEEN HANDED TO MY CAPTAIN TO BE RELAYED BACK TO ME IT WAS BIG ANYWAY...

I TRUST MY CAPTAIN.......MY LIFE DEPENDS ON HIM IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE

04-20-2009, 12:18 PM	#2
sea_dawg Cockpit Monkey In Training Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 39 Home Port: Ft. Mcallister Occupation: Staking Engineer	Tips I have recieved them both ways, but typically the crew tips me directly, though if I am busy cleaning fish or something they will give to the captain and that is not a problem for me. I have a lot of trust for him and have a hard time believing that he would short me. I guess there is a trust factor that needs to be established in your situation. Me personally if I didnt trust the captain I wouldnt work for him.

04-20-2009, 01:26 PM	#5
floridadeckie Crab mustard is good Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Big Bend, Fl/Islamorada, FL Posts: 650 Boat: hula girl Home Port: islamorada Occupation: fulltime freelance deckie	how about you go and confront the captain about it. dont make a fight out of it, simply express your concern and ask him to explain the discrepency. if he is skimming your tips with out your knowledge, thats a issue you definitely need to address with him. My advice, sit down with the captain and have a civilized and fair discussion with him. If he wont explain his position to you and wants to be a dick, jump ship or make sure you get the tip before he does. __________________ *SALTWATER COWBOY OUTFITTERS* Serving the Florida Big Bend to the Keys with all your guiding, deckhand, and detailing needs PM me for rates and details www.saltwatercowboyoutfitters.com Jimmy D.

04-20-2009, 02:39 PM	#8
seapower I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bath,NC Posts: 1,870 Boat: 25' DownEaster Home Port: Bath, NC Best Catch: My wife Occupation: marine diesel service owner	Trust is Everything, I can't speak for the Charter Community, as I've never charter fished. But I've owned a few commercial rig's for a good number of year's, worked alot of crew's. In my own opinion it work's both way's. I don't care how good a deckhand was ,if I couldn't trust him it was "pack your rag's". A crew has to be able to trust the Capt completely. If you don't ,you already know the answer. If he'll steal from you ,he'll lie to you, neither are good. Frank

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04-20-2009, 12:54 PM	#3
hardcore_offshore Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ocean City,MD Posts: 10 Boat: Orange Crush Home Port: Atlantic Beach NC Best Catch: 982# Blue Marlin Occupation: Professional Mate Looking	thats the problem the people came back as i was cleaning the boat an asked me if the 200 dollar tip was enuff ? i said i didnt get nowhere near that much so there i am looking like a idiot an a fool...an here i am asking myself what in the hell have i gotten myself into ? i went through this once before with another captain he was takin anything over my 20 percent of the tip...guess i need to re-evaluate the whole situation...thanks for the advice...

04-26-2009, 07:35 PM	#9
MARLINMASTER1422 I practice safe fishing Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: OCMD ISLAMORADA , FL Posts: 73 Boat: 38' Home Port: OCMD, ISLAMORADA FL Best Catch: 1ST PLACE W MARLIN 2002 WMO, 1ST PLACE TUNA 2006 MID 500 436.9LB THRESHER 2008 MAKO MANIA Occupation: WAX ON WAX OFF CAPTAIN	As for the fact that he took ur money that's bull shit if u can't trust him with ur money how can u trust him with ur life its in his hands when ur wireing a big fish u need to find a new rig. As for my operation if they give me the tip I count it and make sure its enough then give it to my mate and if they give it to him I ask hin how much it was so if its not I would get him more its the capt job to make sure that the mates get enough