you cant stop a tuna

[sashamy]

Its not just your post Don, its all of them I can not help if spelling is a pet peive (don't know if I spelled that right) of mine....it is just that Loose and lose are always confused...

[hotreels jr]

I dont get the guys that are taking 45 minutes to an hour to fight a 60-65'' fish on a 50w or 80w 15 minutes or less should be do able on stand up gear. 80 pound momoi breaks at 125 pounds or so, crank up the drag and get the fish in the boat!

[doglover]

put the boots to them.on a charter we keep the drag around 25lbs.it beats the hell out of the guy fighting the fish.last fish we had was 71"we put 3 different people one the rod.wich is good for my charter.if its a mate of mine.they will put the drag allmost on full and take the fish in ten min

I dont get the guys that are taking 45 minutes to an hour to fight a 60-65'' fish on a 50w or 80w 15 minutes or less should be do able on stand up gear. 80 pound momoi breaks at 125 pounds or so, crank up the drag and get the fish in the boat!

[hotreels jr]

put the boots to them.on a charter we keep the drag around 25lbs.it beats the hell out of the guy fighting the fish.last fish we had was 71"we put 3 different people one the rod.wich is good for my charter.if its a mate of mine.they will put the drag allmost on full and take the fish in ten min

Exactly, a 65'' fish should not take a half hour in a 50!

[backman]

Thats a really bad and inaccurate statement.


100% new Momoi with no knots or crimps may break at 125#; line which has been trolled, might have nicks, has a knot or crimp very likely will break at something less than tested line strength in the field. Most of those nicks and imperfections are in the top 20' of line.

Absolutely go past strike and put 33% of the lines tested strength worth of pressure on the fish, but if you go further; especially in the end game at color you will break off fish. There are times you have to add more using hand pressure to lift, and release when the fish surges, but that's where angling skill and experience comes to play.

I've fished with a number of professionals and one thing they all do is be extremely gentle in those last 20 critical feet; one they have the fish on leader - different story.

On the same note - I've recently taken up the practice of backing the boat once the braid -> mono connection comes back in view. That too is supposed to be a 100% connection, but why pressure it unnecessarily such that it might get caught in a roller guide. Get the topshot on the reel; then increase the drag a few more pounds.

[doglover]

Backman, good info. But i won't use it. The line i use on my charters is 80lbs hi seas, 50 bucks for a 5 pound spool shit line, but good enough for trolling small tuna. The key for me with any fishing I do, and I don't care what it is, my line is always new, my nots are perfect and my crimps are done right. I know how I fight a fish. I have hundreds of small tuna I've caught over my life time. 30 giants from 400 to 1000lbs you win some and lose some, but you do have some great info on line strength. Myself I'll put the boots to them.


100% new Momoi with no knots or crimps may break at 125#; line which has been trolled, might have nicks, has a knot or crimp very likely will break at something less than tested line strength in the field. Most of those nicks and imperfections are in the top 20' of line.

Absolutely go past strike and put 33% of the lines tested strength worth of pressure on the fish, but if you go further; especially in the end game at color you will break off fish. There are times you have to add more using hand pressure to lift, and release when the fish surges, but that's where angling skill and experience comes to play.

I've fished with a number of professionals and one thing they all do is be extremely gentle in those last 20 critical feet; one they have the fish on leader - different story.

On the same note - I've recently taken up the practice of backing the boat once the braid -> mono connection comes back in view. That too is supposed to be a 100% connection, but why pressure it unnecessarily such that it might get caught in a roller guide. Get the topshot on the reel; then increase the drag a few more pounds.[/QUOTE]

[backman]

oh - I put the boots to them just as hard; but I do it with hand pressure orr thumb clamping - a lot easier and safer if the fish surges when you have 'em on the 10 yard short leash.

I used to fish w/ someone who believed you should have 25 yards of double line and go to full the second you got 2 turns of the double on the reel.

The amount of fish of all kinds he lost that way makes spinning ratio's look great.