Tuna on Spinning Gear - Question

[AlloyToy]

http://www.doalures.com/line_to_leader.htm

[Tuna Meltdown]

Meltdown, how are they fishing the pogies. Just livelining them or trolling them like a bally. Also, what is everyone using for a jigging setup?

Dunn, from what I heard they were live lining them. They would look for breaking fish or fish on the sounder and pitch the pogie much like you would for stripers. I believe the guy who had the most success doing this was out of Duxbury, he owns a couple boats and charters them.

For jigging these are the rigs I will have on board this summer.
2 Accurate 665 on Shimano Trevala XXH 5'-8" Rods
1 Shimano Stella 10000 on Shimano Trevala XXH 5'-8"
1 Accurate 870 2-speed on Shimano Trevala XXH 5'-8"

[Tuna Meltdown]

Seth if you or Tunamelt or any of the others have specific questions shoot me an email and I can get into loads of detail. If it's too much to type we can swap numbers and talk it out on the phone. I'm slow this time of year and have no problem helping you guys out.


Thanks for the offer Terry. You and Stew put on a great show. I can't wait to watch a pig pile on one of those new Ocean lures I bought. I'll keep in touch and keep an eye out for you on the water.

[AlloyToy]

Ocean Lures has some very nice product......I love that olive color they have

http://www.oceanlures.com/home.html

[gman]

For casting to tuna I am using a Shimano stella 10000 on a Carpenter Japanese casting rod. I use 65lb braid connected to a 100lb shock leader via a uni to uni. knot. You dont need fluro if you are casting to boiling tuna

For jigging I use either a stella 10000 or a stella 20000 on a Wei World 48XXH rod, 65lb color coded PE line with a 80-100lb leader. Once again i dont see any need to use Fluro

For conventional I use accurate 665 2 speeds although they are getting dusty now that I have converted to spinning gear

[paul708]

For casting to tuna I am using a Shimano stella 10000 on a Carpenter Japanese casting rod. I use 65lb braid connected to a 100lb shock leader via a uni to uni. knot. You dont need fluro if you are casting to boiling tuna

For jigging I use either a stella 10000 or a stella 20000 on a Wei World 48XXH rod, 65lb color coded PE line with a 80-100lb leader. Once again i dont see any need to use Fluro

For conventional I use accurate 665 2 speeds although they are getting dusty now that I have converted to spinning gear

We got to get you a monster spin rod for that 20000

[Riptide Charters]

For casting to tuna I am using a Shimano stella 10000 on a Carpenter Japanese casting rod. I use 65lb braid connected to a 100lb shock leader via a uni to uni. knot. You dont need fluro if you are casting to boiling tuna

For jigging I use either a stella 10000 or a stella 20000 on a Wei World 48XXH rod, 65lb color coded PE line with a 80-100lb leader. Once again i dont see any need to use Fluro

For conventional I use accurate 665 2 speeds although they are getting dusty now that I have converted to spinning gear

With all due respect, you don't see a need for $3 worth of flouro, but you use a $700 rod and a $700 reel loaded with some of the most expensive braid available???

I'll take my el cheapo 950 Penn and my $189 St Croix rod load them with 50# over the counter spectra and a spool of both 30# and 50# Seaguar Flouro. When the tuna are picky and they do get picky I'll put a weeks pay down on who's gonna see more action.

In two days of fishing 4 of those $$$$$ rods died ugly deaths, in 4 years of using these same St Croix's I've had to replace the tip top guide on 2 of them.

[gman]

With all due respect, you don't see a need for $3 worth of flouro, but you use a $700 rod and a $700 reel loaded with some of the most expensive braid available???

I'll take my el cheapo 950 Penn and my $189 St Croix rod load them with 50# over the counter spectra and a spool of both 30# and 50# Seaguar Flouro. When the tuna are picky and they do get picky I'll put a weeks pay down on who's gonna see more action.

In two days of fishing 4 of those $$$$$ rods died ugly deaths, in 4 years of using these same St Croix's I've had to replace the tip top guide on 2 of them.

I thought i was just posting my personal gear???

With all due respect to you Terry, the non use of fluro has nothing to do with the $3.00 worth of line. I used to use fluro and I stopped because I didn't see any difference in the bite and personally I dont like it its too stiff IMHO. is fluro neccisary, yes in some circumstances but I don't believe it is when casting but like I said my opinion.

My casting outfit uses regular braid (over the counter)as I stated so its really not that expensive. Im glad you feel you will get more action you are a guide and I am an angler but to be honest I have a pretty good catch record. But OK you got me, you will win. The cost of the gear I use is my business I choose to use it and I like it the same way you like your St Croix's to each their own

My rods didn't break, maybe someone else's rods broke and I don't know why or how they broke thats between you and them. I haven't had an issue with any of my $$$$ gear it suits me just fine

[Riptide Charters]

Gman,

The poster was looking for advice on rigging. Your statement was "you don't need flouro for tuna". While you don't NEED allot of things. HOWEVER, I think if you polled the guys fishing for tuna on the surface that are catching them regularly you'd find that nearly all of them are using flouro.

Can you catch tuna w/o flouro, sure, you can get them on wire line too. Perhaps, you'd find that the flouro was not as stiff if you weren't using 100# shock leader. Not sure why you got rigged up like that for tuna in the first place. 30-50# flouro is MORE than enough to land any of the tuna anyone is likley to see in a plugging situation.

Of course to each his own.

[gman]

Gman,

The poster was looking for advice on rigging. Your statement was "you don't need flouro for tuna". While you don't NEED allot of things. HOWEVER, I think if you polled the guys fishing for tuna on the surface that are catching them regularly you'd find that nearly all of them are using flouro.

Can you catch tuna w/o flouro, sure, you can get them on wire line too. Perhaps, you'd find that the flouro was not as stiff if you weren't using 100# shock leader. Not sure why you got rigged up like that for tuna in the first place. 30-50# flouro is MORE than enough to land any of the tuna anyone is likley to see in a plugging situation.

Of course to each his own.

My comment was "you don't need fluro casting to boiling tuna" and that was my opinion. I use fluro for chunking but not for casting. Why becuase my persoanl experiences have shown me that I dont feel I need it. I caught a bunch of top water tuna off POC-Texas, Venice-LA, Cabo and Cape Cod all without fluro ranging on fish ranging from 30lbs - 140lbs but you are right I'm sure the majority would say fluro is needed and so be it, god bless.

My 80/100 lb shock leader is about as soft and thin as 60 mono, I got a custom to using when I fish the oil platforms down off texas, you need something strong to pull fish from the rigs and it stuck. The stuff is soft like butter and strong like bull. If its thinner and stronger why not use it, I want the advantage.

There are a million ways to catch a fish