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[twofinbluna]

Bluefin just do not get any dumber than this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G9dA...ayer_embedded#!

[chumtini]

I wish someone would throw a banana in there and debunk the myth. Cool video

[sears720]

[Animal 1]

**** me,running.They gotta be on herring.Wish we still had herring.

[bluefintuna1945]

Chris, there is a message in all of this in PEI and to some extent the past month or so at Georges.

We all talk about how the older, bigger fish are smarter. We make sure we have the best baits possible. We try to give the perfect presentation to whatever bait we use. We worry about the fish being leader shy. Etc, etc..

Well the reality is that if you have a large body of fish, who are actively feeding, one thing happens--they get competitive!
Not unlike my grandaughter feeding bread to the bluegills in the duck pond.

When that happens you could toss out an old boot, on a 1/4 inch rope, with a grapple hook imbedded, and hook up.

[gmoney]

absolutely, you get em all steamed up feeding stupid like that you could feed em a split tailed hot dog

[Massbaytuna3]

absolutely, you get em all steamed up feeding stupid like that you could feed em a split tailed hot dog

Guy caught and released one on a green scrubby pad rolled up and flossed to the hook right before we got there...

[twofinbluna]

Chris, there is a message in all of this in PEI and to some extent the past month or so at Georges.

We all talk about how the older, bigger fish are smarter. We make sure we have the best baits possible. We try to give the perfect presentation to whatever bait we use. We worry about the fish being leader shy. Etc, etc..

Well the reality is that if you have a large body of fish, who are actively feeding, one thing happens--they get competitive!
Not unlike my grandaughter feeding bread to the bluegills in the duck pond.

When that happens you could toss out an old boot, on a 1/4 inch rope, with a grapple hook imbedded, and hook up.

I agree the competition factor is huge. It all comes down to having enough fish in a concentrated area to make it happen. I do not think that having a high concentration of fish in an area will always lead to this behavior (hand feeding that is), but there is no doubt that you do not see this kind of behavior with out a high concentration of fish. And just because fish are not being hand fed does not mean they wont be easier to catch. For example, the Kettle bites in the old days were as good as anything but they were catching them down deep a little ways. So, not necessarily hand feeding them, but crushing them nonetheless.

In the end, unless the bait issue gets fixed in our neck of the woods we will be stuck dreaming about this stuff each Fall. Hopefully it gets fixed sooner rather than later.

[bmcl322]

About 20 years ago I was shark fishing on the SE (not SW) corner in 130ft. 400 piano wire and a dead mack. I could see the dark back of the tuna come right up behind the stern and 30 feet from the bait on a ballon (at the time I didn't know it was a tuna). It made no movement toward the bait, but was right behind it for a few minutes, then a blue shark darted between the boat and the bait. That was all it took. The Bluefin grabbed the Mack. and proceded to pull my 1967 16' 7" Boston Whaler around for almost 2 hours. The Bluefin took the bait before the shark had a chance to take it. I had less than a 30 reel and a good heavy Tuna rod with 80lb test. The small whaler was my drag as it weighs less then 1000lbs dry. On a heavier boat, or in deaper water I would have been spooled in less than a minute I didn't know what I had till I saw the top swivel at the water's surface, and looked down. The steel leader was 12 feet long. The Tuna's back was the same beautiful dark blue color as the ocean. At first I couldn't make it out as a Tuna, or any fish at all. I actually braced myself, and was a bit nervous, as I new the beast was less than 12 feet below me, but couldn't make it out. Then it kicked and I saw it's beautiful silver belly. I've been hooked on Bluefin ever since. To this day, I'm sure the Bluefin Tuna would not have taken my bait without the shark motivating the Tuna to do so. So you're spot on with your competitive theory.

[mjcjr1]

OK for the past 3 or 4 years I've read and seen video reports of this great GBFT fishery up North.
Why is it so good up there and not here,it's got to be all about the bait and food source.(do not really buy the water temp theory)
I've done a little research on the Canadian DFO website and it appears to me these guys up there really have gotten it dialed in.
Check out these 2 links :

http://www.glf.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/folios/...einers-eng.pdf

http://www2.glf.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fam-gp...y_cdE%5B%5D=11

I'm no marine biologist but judging by the amount of detailed information and the way they monitor their quotas for herring and other forage fish and the way they have there areas broken down, one would think they have it figured out based on the amount of GBFT that take up residence up there and simply pass us by every summer.

Is there someone out there that can make a comparision between what the DFO is doing up there and what we currently have for regs on the same forage fish catch/quotas and draw some comparisions in layman terms so I can really understand what we "should " be doing here that would provide the best positive impact (best bang for the buck)for our forage fish?
It seems to me if it's working up there let's do it down here?

Is it quotas, regs on seiners/pair trawlers... what is it? Maybe there is no easy answer but figured I would throw the question out.

Thanks in advance

Mike C