STRADIC 8000FI VS SARAGOSA 8000F

[bigg09]

Is there any major differences besides the drags and the spool in in these. i believe the saragosa has the dartanium drags and the cold forged aluminum spool. And are these differences a reason to choose between the two? the stradic is rated at 29# drag and the saragosa is at 27# drag. thinking of pairing these with star stellar ligth 6'4" mh jigging rods. vertical jigging is not my only desire, but these would work well for other applications (i.e. cobia casting, bailing mahi, bull red drum fishing,etc...) i am also planning on loading them with 50-65# braid either pp,saltiga or samurai braid.
thanks, Casey

[andrew whitman]

the stradic has the worm gear oscillation where as the saragosa has the classic piston oscillation. im not sure why the drag ratings are different but i think the sustain/stradic fi's are hard to beat for the money. The spool will hold the same amount of line on the two also. plus the stradic is lighter

[Van Wildonher]

Saragosa

Family/Type
Offshore Spinning

Construction
Aluminum Frame
Graphite Rotor (Aluminum on 14000
& 18000 sizes)

Bearings
5 A-RB Ball Bearings (6 on 14000
& 18000 sizes)
1 Roller Bearing

Cast Control
N/A

Drag Type
Waterproof Drag, Dartainium Drag
(6000-18000 sizes only)

Anti-Reverse
Super Stopper II

Spool
Cold Forged Aluminum Spool

Gear Ratio
6.0:1 (3000 & 4000 models)
5.2:1 (5000 - 8000 models)
4.9:1 (14000 & 18000 models)


Special Features
Paladin Gear Durability Enhancement

Propulsion Line Management System

Stopperless Design
(No Anti-Reverse Switch)

Fluidrive II

Dyna-Balance

Power Roller III

Aerowave Oscillation
(3000-8000 sizes only)

Aero Wrap Oscillation
(14000 & 18000 sizes only)

Direct Drive Mechanism

Drilled Spool Skirt

Titanium Spool Lip

Ergonomic Handle Grips

S-Arm Cam

One-Piece Bail Wire

Septon Handle Grips

Repairable Clicker

Optional Kit available for No Bail Wire
configuration on 14000 & 18000 sizes.
Part number: SWBAILKIT

MSRP
SRG3000F $189.99
SRG4000F $189.99
SRG5000F $219.99
SRG6000F $219.99
SRG8000F $229.99
SRG14000F $299.99
SRG18000F $299.99

Stradic

Family/Type
Spinning
SR-Concept

Construction
Aluminum Frame with Graphite
Sideplates and Rotor

Bearings
5 S A-RB Ball Bearings,
1 Roller Bearing

Cast Control
N/A

Drag Type
Front

Anti-Reverse
Super Stopper II

Spool
Cold Forged Aluminum Spool
(Spare Included)

Gear Ratio
6.0:1 (1000, 2500, 3000)
5.8:1 (4000)
5.7:1 (5000, 6000, 8000)

Special Features
Paladin Gear Durability
Enancement

Propulsion Line
Management System

Aero Wrap II Oscillation

Fluidrive II

Dyna-Balance

Aero Wrap II Oscillation

Floating Shaft

MSRP
ST1000FI $159.99
ST2500FI $159.99
ST3000FI $159.99
ST4000FI $179.99
ST5000FI $179.99
ST6000FI $199.99
ST8000FI $199.99

[bigg09]

Thanks for the specs, but i have already seen them, i was looking for a little more technical or hands on experience and comparison of the two. Is there really much of a difference?

[Anders]

Thanks for the specs, but i have already seen them, i was looking for a little more technical or hands on experience and comparison of the two. Is there really much of a difference?

I have both the stradic and the saragosa. The stradic will not handle offshore jigging long term. I just got the saragosa a couple weeks ago and will be taking it out on May 7th tuna/aj jigging. I can let you know more personally then. I have read many reports of the saragosa catching many tuna/ajs and even 100+ blue fin tuna. I love my stradics for inshore fishing though. They put a woopin on a 50" red drum, the do great on sea bass and tile fish too, but not hard crankin, hard long running offshore fish.

Stradic= anything under 40 lbs
Saragosa= anything under 100 lbs
Stella= anything

Hope this helps

P.S. These are my opinions so don't hate!

[bigg09]

anders, is that the new stradic fi that you have or is it one of the older ones. i have a couble of the older stradic 8000 and have the same problems, but i was just wondering if the newer ones are just a step above (i.e. more comparable to older model sustains). Thanks

[Anders]

anders, is that the new stradic fi that you have or is it one of the older ones. i have a couble of the older stradic 8000 and have the same problems, but i was just wondering if the newer ones are just a step above (i.e. more comparable to older model sustains). Thanks

I got the new ones this past January and both are 8000's.

[bigg09]

thanks a bunch. answered my questions. I was planning to have them mainly for drum and cobia, but for the rare ocassion that i go jigging for blackfin or bail dolphin i think it will do.

[Jiggin Junkie]

I like the Saragoosa and Jerry Brown solid braid.

[andrew whitman]

the stradic 8000 has the same drive train as the sustain 8000. the saragosa 8000 has the same drive train as the spheros 8000. that says alot. the bigger saragosas(14k/18k) have a different drive train with the worm gear oscillation. a much better design.
The only differences in the sustain and the stradic are the spool being ported and titanium lip, and a ball bearing in the spool. other than that the schematics are the same. I trust my stradic 8000 on reasonable fish. but not 60+ pound yft!