spinning reel

[Sved002]

hello,
I would like to ask you what size of spinning reel would you use for jigging rod rated 300g.
My choice would be Shimano Saragosa or Quantum Cabo.
I would like to be able to handle AJ.

Thank you

[Nauti Natured]

Shimano Spheros 14000a. Hands down the best reel for the money and it will handle any AJ you throw at it.

[pametfisher]

hello,
I would like to ask you what size of spinning reel would you use for jigging rod rated 300g.
My choice would be Shimano Saragosa or Quantum Cabo.
I would like to be able to handle AJ.

Thank you

I'm new here at Sportfisherman but have posted extensively on other boards about tackle for Bluefin fishing--mostly about performance, technology, drags, splices, knots, that kind of stuff.

I have been helping anglers setup Spinning reels to get the benefits of windon leaders and recently I set up a Saragosa and the next week a Quantum Cabo 70PT. The Saragosa is more money but is a MUCH better reel. Here are the differences I saw while checking the drags.

Saragosa 18000:
Five carbon impregnated washers.
Max drag (top of spool) measured after maintenance: about 25 lbs.
Drag Cap Spring: Strong

Quantum Cabo 70PT
One Ceramic insulator at the top of the stack
Five non-graphite woven fabric washers
Max drag (full spool) measured after maintenance: about 15 lbs.
Drag Cap Spring: Short and weak.

My overall impression was that the Cabo was designed for lighter service than the Saragosa. Hope that helps.
PF

[Pipeliner2]

I'm new here at Sportfisherman but have posted extensively on other boards about tackle for Bluefin fishing--mostly about performance, technology, drags, splices, knots, that kind of stuff.

I have been helping anglers setup Spinning reels to get the benefits of windon leaders and recently I set up a Saragosa and the next week a Quantum Cabo 70PT. The Saragosa is more money but is a MUCH better reel. Here are the differences I saw while checking the drags.

Saragosa 18000:
Five carbon impregnated washers.
Max drag (top of spool) measured after maintenance: about 25 lbs.
Drag Cap Spring: Strong

Quantum Cabo 70PT
One Ceramic insulator at the top of the stack
Five non-graphite woven fabric washers
Max drag (full spool) measured after maintenance: about 15 lbs.
Drag Cap Spring: Short and weak.

My overall impression was that the Cabo was designed for lighter service than the Saragosa. Hope that helps.
PF

Pametfisher,

I too have a Saragosa 18000F. I have done the Carbontex drag washer upgrade to the reel. How are you measuring the maxdrag? Mine is spooled with about 340 yards of 80lb braid, and when using a shimano spring scale and pulling through the rod guides (with no rod bend) I am pulling 38-39 lbs with a full spool. I plan on fishing it with 22-25 lbs of drag for tuna. I am actually questioning my numbers, since I am fairly new to the topwater tuna game.

[pametfisher]

Pametfisher,

I too have a Saragosa 18000F. I have done the Carbontex drag washer upgrade to the reel. How are you measuring the maxdrag? Mine is spooled with about 340 yards of 80lb braid, and when using a shimano spring scale and pulling through the rod guides (with no rod bend) I am pulling 38-39 lbs with a full spool. I plan on fishing it with 22-25 lbs of drag for tuna. I am actually questioning my numbers, since I am fairly new to the topwater tuna game.

Good question. What I do is turn the drag cap down until the spring in it is fully compressed. You can easily feel that point. At the 20lb. drag level it doesn't matter much whether you measure it through the guides or not, the readings come out about the same.

After that point as you turn the cap until you can go no further, the drag rises quickly. I believe the correct place to stop is just before the spring bottoms. If you go beyond, the spring is no longer there (since it's fully compressed) to respond to thermal variations, height variations, etc.

If you go with the numbers I got, when you get to the bottom of the spool, the drag will have risen to about 50 lbs. That's right about where Shimano's Max Drag spec falls, give or take. This has led me to the conclusion, after measuring many spinning reels, that the Max Drag spec means when the spool is empty.