Next Gen Spirals

[paul708]

Originally Posted by Sea Draggin

I would think that with those fast rods you northern guys like, that this would almost static test better.

What do you think Paul? Still love my 200 you made me...for the record.

hey. not all us yanks like fast actions
and with some hands on the blanks..the guys see why

your 200..SWEET.
it just looks funny... to me

the 300 i dont like as much.

[Sea Draggin]

Originally Posted by paul708

the 300 i dont like as much.

Agreed. The 300 is nothing like the 200. Should be similar, but it aint.

[Sea Draggin]

Originally Posted by Parker21

It looks to me like on that rod you are defeating the purpose of the acid rod, it looks like you would get alot of twist from the first three guilds being on top of the blank. I don't get it or know that much about acid rods though.

No, the twist on a rod that has been loaded beyond its capabality will start at the tip and work back. Since the tip will remain true with this style of wrap, every thing will stay where it should be.

If you jig conventionals, you may ultimately end up here. If you jig spinners....welll......your already there so it doesn't matter.

[NoExcuses]

Hard to say from the pic but that looks like a fairly long rod. Nine guides + top ? Looks more like a casting set-up than a jigging set-up.

It would definitely remove line pile up but would add torque as the rod shortens. Torque is what you are trying to alleviate to begin with.

I've played with many many layouts and I'm sure Paul has tried many more. There is no winning the spiral argument as there is single way to fit every need or condition.

[jig42na]

Parker21
If you have too many beers when wrapping your next rod and wrap the guides around the rod than your not aloud on the boat anymore. Jim's lucky he got with that thing he made. LOL

[Sea Draggin]

Originally Posted by NoExcuses

Hard to say from the pic but that looks like a fairly long rod.

Rod specs: 5'6" length 80-200g rod.

[ChrisW_]

Originally Posted by Sea Draggin

It seems to me that the kiwi's are a little more advanced in the spirals. Maybe because they are closer to the orient and just communicating the advances? I don't know, but they seem to have more widely embraced the acid style.

Advanced? I don't think so, inexperienced - yes probably. I know this builder and he and other NZ custom acid builders have been building spirals for 1 to 5 years and producing a wide following. Yes some Kiwis have embraced the acid rod and interest is growing here but conventional rods still rule. NZ custom rod builders don't have the experience of many of the builders on this board and are still developing their craft. We are exposed to some of the Japanese designs and NZ acid rods tend to reflect these design nuances. Kojak rods is one such acid specialist and a good buddy of mine. He is the most technical builder I know and many of his designs have been copied here by commercial and DIY builders. I should post an image of his rods here later.

BTW, what are the reasons for LH versus RH spiral?

[paul708]

Originally Posted by ChrisW_

BTW, what are the reasons for LH versus RH spiral?

some guys like the way they look,
some like having the guides going on the other side they reel with.
some like the way they lay on the deck.
no real advantage/disadvantage either way. all personal preferance

[FishNaddiction]

Whatever floats your boat. Confidence is a big part of fishing. I'm still waiting to get a bend in my spiral wrap to see how it performs. Apparently it's making the BFT nervous as I still haven't hooked up. It does look weird while you're fishing and see it wrapping arount the side.

[Sea Draggin]

Here is another 150g rod done in the same style.