Making your own assist Hooks - Page 6

jig42na · 02-17-2009, 06:31 PM

Junior Jigs
You keep your boat at Seaview Harbor. I think I talked to guys one day after the Elephant bight. I think you said you did 2-3 days straight out there. I was in a Parker that day.

JuniorJigs · 02-19-2009, 01:00 AM

yeah i remember it was a great tuna bight we went out Friday, Saturday and Saturday. I was exhausted Monday morning. We killed the tuna that weekend. I think our final numbers for that weekend was Friday 4/5 then Saturday got there earlier and went 10/11 with 2 double header and 1 triple header and Sunday 3/4 ...

jig42na · 02-19-2009, 07:08 AM

Cool I figured that was you when I saw the 33te cat. It funny I was just talking to a friend yesterday about the fishing that was had there for a little while. Its a shame the amount of boats on it though. But the first run of fish were some really nice size fish.

captdavdavis01 · 02-19-2009, 07:40 AM

In my "Hatteras blackfin 18feb09" report, you'll see a jig with no hook. This was a store bought jig witht he hook attached from the retailer. I cut the heat shink off of one last night and they are attached using the "overhand" knot on the hook shark and loop fed through the hook eye method. There was no glue on the one I cut open.

Hopefully everyone that is making there own is glueing theirs, Id hate to see anyone loose a quality bite because they forgot or skipped a critical step.

Danny

Sea Draggin · 02-19-2009, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captdavdavis01

Hopefully everyone that is making there own is glueing theirs, Id hate to see anyone loose a quality bite because they forgot or skipped a critical step.

I discovered that not glueing them is the standard production method. Thats why I took the time to do this entire thread two weeks ago.

Glueing Jig Hooks

John from Madison CT · 02-19-2009, 09:53 AM

In the last couple of days I've been experimenting with different types of assist hook rigging. Here are a couple observations:

1. Many prepacked hooks you buy are rigged very differently than what we make. I have a few like OTI's and Gamakatsu's where all they do is lie the line along side the hook and wrap it with thread. It's probably glued too.
While time consuming for me, I made a couple this way. Remarkable that they hold a lot of pull. You wouldn't think this technique is acceptable, but it works.

2. I tried Gman's technique of forming a single overhand knot in the line and using this to carry the load. It works with a double line, but utilizing this with a single line I found they often failed under strain. I was somewhat surprised by this, but be warned that it may not work.

Taz575 · 02-19-2009, 11:34 AM

Ok. Finally got some pics and did some testing of the stuff I got. I got the Hoodlums from Mustad in 5/0, 6/0, 7/0 mainly for inshore (fluke, stripers, bluefish, etc) and the Owner Gorilla's in 7/0 and 8/0. I have the Gama HD Live Bait coming in today as well. I purchased some 400# kevlar, 3 strands twisted together. I followed GMan's instructions in the post and made some hooks:

Again, the grid squares are 1" for comparison purposes. Left is a 6/0 Hoodlum, followed by a 7/0 and 8/0 Gorilla. The 6/0 and 8/0 were tested on a spring scale, maxed out the 50# spring scale w/o bending. No signs of knot slippage either! I ordered some shrink stuff and need to get some larger sizes as well as super glue to finish these off, but I am happy with them!

This is where I got the Kevlar from:
http://www.unclemikesrocketshack.com...rds/Cords.html

I was going to use the stuff from APS, but it seems that all of their assist hooks and cord have been out of stock for a while now. Anyone know if they will replenish??

gman · 02-19-2009, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John from Madison CT

2. I tried Gman's technique of forming a single overhand knot in the line and using this to carry the load. It works with a double line, but utilizing this with a single line I found they often failed under strain. I was somewhat surprised by this, but be warned that it may not work.

with kevlar it does not fail, I have tied and used probably over a hundred and never once seen any fail

02-19-2009, 07:40 AM	#54
captdavdavis01 I practice safe fishing Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 65 Credits: 1,647.7	making your own jig hooks... In my "Hatteras blackfin 18feb09" report, you'll see a jig with no hook. This was a store bought jig witht he hook attached from the retailer. I cut the heat shink off of one last night and they are attached using the "overhand" knot on the hook shark and loop fed through the hook eye method. There was no glue on the one I cut open. Hopefully everyone that is making there own is glueing theirs, Id hate to see anyone loose a quality bite because they forgot or skipped a critical step. Danny Last edited by captdavdavis01; 02-19-2009 at 07:47 AM.

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02-19-2009, 01:00 AM	#52
JuniorJigs Guppy Breeder Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: OC, New Jersey Posts: 31 Credits: 418.9 Boat: 33 TE World Cat Home Port: Ocean City	yeah i remember it was a great tuna bight we went out Friday, Saturday and Saturday. I was exhausted Monday morning. We killed the tuna that weekend. I think our final numbers for that weekend was Friday 4/5 then Saturday got there earlier and went 10/11 with 2 double header and 1 triple header and Sunday 3/4 ...

02-19-2009, 07:08 AM	#53
jig42na Sit down Shut up And fish Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 450 Credits: 2,628.5	Cool I figured that was you when I saw the 33te cat. It funny I was just talking to a friend yesterday about the fishing that was had there for a little while. Its a shame the amount of boats on it though. But the first run of fish were some really nice size fish.

02-19-2009, 09:53 AM	#56
John from Madison CT Anthony's Ark is a blowboater Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Madison,CT Posts: 278 Credits: 1,983.5 Boat: 25' Parker - Icarus II Home Port: Clinton, CT	In the last couple of days I've been experimenting with different types of assist hook rigging. Here are a couple observations: 1. Many prepacked hooks you buy are rigged very differently than what we make. I have a few like OTI's and Gamakatsu's where all they do is lie the line along side the hook and wrap it with thread. It's probably glued too. While time consuming for me, I made a couple this way. Remarkable that they hold a lot of pull. You wouldn't think this technique is acceptable, but it works. 2. I tried Gman's technique of forming a single overhand knot in the line and using this to carry the load. It works with a double line, but utilizing this with a single line I found they often failed under strain. I was somewhat surprised by this, but be warned that it may not work.

02-19-2009, 11:34 AM	#57
Taz575 Got fish Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 198 Credits: 1,405.1	Ok. Finally got some pics and did some testing of the stuff I got. I got the Hoodlums from Mustad in 5/0, 6/0, 7/0 mainly for inshore (fluke, stripers, bluefish, etc) and the Owner Gorilla's in 7/0 and 8/0. I have the Gama HD Live Bait coming in today as well. I purchased some 400# kevlar, 3 strands twisted together. I followed GMan's instructions in the post and made some hooks: Again, the grid squares are 1" for comparison purposes. Left is a 6/0 Hoodlum, followed by a 7/0 and 8/0 Gorilla. The 6/0 and 8/0 were tested on a spring scale, maxed out the 50# spring scale w/o bending. No signs of knot slippage either! I ordered some shrink stuff and need to get some larger sizes as well as super glue to finish these off, but I am happy with them! This is where I got the Kevlar from: http://www.unclemikesrocketshack.com...rds/Cords.html I was going to use the stuff from APS, but it seems that all of their assist hooks and cord have been out of stock for a while now. Anyone know if they will replenish??