Knot Innovation

**Sea Draggin** · 08-05-2009 10:09 AM

I am reposting this with Kevin's permission. Hopefully he will join us to answer any questions about this, as I have not tied it yet. However, I felt like it was really cool and an innovative idea, so I wanted to share it with others.

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Originally posted by: Kevin

A couple of things drove me to figure out how to tie a wind on leader with
solid braid.
1, I am not good at splicing hollow.
2, I wind up with a lot of short spools of solid braid,
3, I had the tools on hand from building Page Ranking knots.
4. Although I may start a trip with a P. R. knot to leader.. While at sea and a leader needs to be replaced. I feel much better tying Bimini twist and adding a wind on
5, The idea came to me .

This is basically a version of the P. R. knot. I've been tying it for a little while and have made some adjustments as I thought would make it secure and dependable. I have now fished it several times without failure. So I thought I would share. I have not seen a leader built like this but I figure someone somewhere has done same or similar. I have tied this with 50 to 100 lb solid braids and 80 to 220 lb leader material.

So in about 10 mins this is what I do.
Add about 6 feet of braid to bobbin
With lighter prep leader end same as for P. R
Tie uni knot with braid to leader 6 inches from tag end , wrap braid around leader at about 1 wrap per inch.
Add 2 half hitches about 3\8 inch from end of leader. Counter rotate uni and half hitches to insure braid is firm to leader.

Make short 3 inch loop with braid and tie 2 half hitches against first set of half hitches and end of leader. This will leave about 1\4 inch of tag end on leader.
Lay\wrap braid right next to first set of wraps. (I tried a cross or opposite wrap but that did not hold as well when load testing). Finish this direction of wrap with 1\2 inch of tight serve up against the uni. (This helps lock the uni in place)

Make tight serve back to tag end same as you would with P. R. knot including on top of the half hitches just before the tag end..
Tie a few half hitches( or uni) tightly on the remaining 1\4 inch of the tag end. This is now time to test the knot by pulling on leader and loop of course no slippage should occur. The next is a 2 or 3 layer finishing serve about 1/2 inch long on the loop to create a smother transition of loop and tag end for when leader is wound back through the eyes.
Add a little glue to the uni and front serve, the half hitches and serve at the tag end and the layered serve on the loop.
That’s about it.
This most likely is not for many, just something I'm been doing and thought I would share.

Kev

**Bert Rodgers** · 08-05-2009 12:09 PM

Red xs on the pics. I would love to see them though cause I can't wrap my head around the descrition without a visual.

Bert

**Sea Draggin** · 08-05-2009 12:15 PM

Bert,
Its on your end. I can see them fine. Run your spybot and disk clean up and see if it fixes it for you.

I think this is a cool idea that I am going to try for a popping/casting transition.

**proteus_x3** · 08-05-2009 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Sea Draggin

Bert,
Its on your end. I can see them fine. Run your spybot and disk clean up and see if it fixes it for you.

I think this is a cool idea that I am going to try for a popping/casting transition.

Hmm I have same problem,and no spyware on my computer,I 'll check again just to make sure...BTW thank for sharing.Rich

**TBaker** · 08-05-2009 12:51 PM

Very similar to something I was trying this winter, except I didn't have the uni's on both ends. That's a great addition! Looks like a winner. Even without the uni's, I couldn't make it fail. Great alternative for us cheap bastards that won't pony up for a real wind-on! Sorry, Jim!

**Sea Draggin** · 08-05-2009 01:06 PM

I like hollow core windons for jigging. I don't think there is anything that can beat them for strength. No straight braid to mono knot is stronger, that I am 100% sure of.

However, they suck for casting. I am hoping this will become my goto connection for that.