first time poster needs advice

[captdavdavis01]

Parker, Im with you on the whole wind on thing for jigging. About 5ft of 60 flouro has been working good for 2 years in Hatterass for the blackfins. Anymore and the kings hit the spot where braid ends and leader begins.


Paul, ok ,your after tuna, where are you planning on fishing out of? ( I should have asked that before). I can only comment on how I rig and for where I fish.

Ive had several guys Ive fished with try the full blown wind on leader and they didnt get any bites. I was mostly technique, but after they got the motion down, they still were,not getting bites, the only differance was the 20ft, 80# and 100# windon they were using, and the 5ft, 60# I was using.

Danny

[paul]

Capt i will be fishing mostly in out of oi and hatteras also this will be my first time jigging

[Sea Draggin]

I would try to simplify your set up, I would tie a pr or mid knot for your braid to flouro. Then tie a uni or palomar from your jig to your flour. You can search this site for all these knots.
I don't quite understand why people use wind ons?

I have talked to a few thousand people about jigging since my Jan shows. I spend every night on the phone from 6-9 talking to people out there. The fact is that the far majority are still trying to figure it out. The fact also is, that the far majority can't tie a PR.

I myself have spent an afternoon or two working in the cockpit of a charter boat and find the PR knot to be a little tough. To do one that I am confident in anyway.

That's what it boils down to. I would rather convert someone to Team Jigga, over from trolling, by teaching them a bimini and windons method, than to over burden them with a PR.

Right now I'm trying to get past bimini with a lot of folks. I use the bimini/windon stuff on my setups and catch fish confidently and regularly, so I know it works. Not that other methods don't.

I would encourage you to share your knowledge with others. Have friends over for a knot tieing & TESTING evening. Sounds like fun to me.

[On The Edge]

I'm with Sea. A bimini twist in Braid is an easy knot to tie, and a loop to loop with a windon is even easier. As far as attaching the jig to the floro, tie your Floro to one leg of a swivel, attach your assist hook to the opposite leg of the same swivel and then connect your jig to the same leg of the swivel as the assist hook via a split ring. This keeps the Split ring out of the link between you and a fish.

[Sea Draggin]

On the Edge,
Its not about what is the the BEST knot to tie.

If someone can confidently tie a PR, then that is the best knot for them. For others its the spider, or no name, or uni/uni. For me its the bimini/loop to loop, as I have more confidence in it than anything else. So that confidence makes it right for me.

The best knot is what folks have confidence in and have tested. I'm going to continue to beat the testing drum, because I have seen many pretty knots not perform the way I have thought they would.

I would love to see some of the folks offering actual test pics and video's threads with numbers. That would help the jigging community more than talking about knots.

[On The Edge]

On the Edge,
Its not about what is the the BEST knot to tie.

If someone can confidently tie a PR, then that is the best knot for them. For others its the spider, or no name, or uni/uni. For me its the bimini/loop to loop, as I have more confidence in it than anything else. So that confidence makes it right for me.

The best knot is what folks have confidence in and have tested. I'm going to continue to beat the testing drum, because I have seen many pretty knots not perform the way I have thought they would.

I would love to see some of the folks offering actual test pics and video's threads with numbers. That would help the jigging community more than talking about knots.

I agree. It is what one is most comfortable with. I guess i was just echoing that your combonation of connection and knot is what i find the easyiest for me, and should be considered if one is looking for another method to consider or learn..

Its all good

[Sea Draggin]

Yeah, often there are four of us on the boat and we are all using 4 different knots. Normally though if someone is having trouble, one of us will step in and help out. Thats the beauty of it all.

JIGGERS UNITE

[mozza]

The fish are biting a big bit of metal with a hook attached via a 400lb cord..... so why the fluro? there should be NO abrasion on the trace(maybe a little where the trace joins the solid ring, but leader chafe tube protects that....... if you get taken to the bricks you were obviously being a bit of a pussy on the winding

try some of the shockleaders put out by the jigging companies and you may be pleasantly surprised and trade in the fluro for jigging.

[kilsong]

It is hard to understand why they try hard to tie PR knot bypassing Midknot which is as good as PR knot and is easy to tie even on a rolling boat.
Fashion or brainwashing ?

[jig42na]

Kil your 100% correct although I still tie PR 1st in the garage and even sometimes on the boat because it is a bit smoother of a knot. But there is absolutely no reason not to use over a midknot do to breaking strength. Also for tying the PR you don't need fancy bobbins to tie it either.

I think what Parker21 was getting at is that tying a bimini in braid and then looping on a windon is sort of contradicting. THe bimini is not 100%, although a great knot. I used them for years in braid to a no-name. The windon is 100%. So to me it doesn't make sense to have 3 different matierials, and 2connections and it knot be 100%.
Mid and PR are always within 90%-100% for me. It's one connection and 2 matierials.

Like said before though, this is what I think. My pops catches tuna, Aj, whatever with a barrel swivel and camo mono all the time so what ever works is best.
My last testing was on Yo-zuri pink flouro 80lb. and 80lb solid JB and it bottomed out a 75lb. scale. The braid always break 1st but I don't have a scale over 75lb.