building jigging rod - Page 3

kilsong · 06-28-2009, 03:44 PM

I have somewhat different opinion.
For the first time jigging rod, I suggest a little heavier jigging rod than the rod for the fish you nornally target.
You always have chances to hook up bigger fish and it is safer with a little stronger rod unless you are light tackle specialist.

Besides, if you are looking for light rods for the first time, it is much better and cheaper to buy Trevala rods than build your own rods.

Sea Draggin · 06-28-2009, 05:59 PM

But it is easier for a beginner to fish an overloaded rod correctly. I would not recommend a rod that is too heavy.

Even if a big fish is around, so what if it takes 10 minutes longer to land? Thats what your there for anyway, to fight fish. The beginner is just doing what they came for for a few minutes longer.

I do agree that a trevala is good to start for stock rods. However, I would not trade one for the 200g Paul built me out of the riley blank for any amount of stock rods.

And the thread is about what blank to buy, not what stock rod to buy. My answer for that would be a Diawa anyway, not Trevela. They are less expensive and stronger.

kilsong · 06-28-2009, 06:12 PM

OK, Jim. I like diversified opinions as we do many different things to catch same kind of fish.

Fishermen eventually choose lighter rods/reels once they get more experience.
I sell more lighter rods these days.
See, I am trying to catch 100 lbs tuna with my JM PE4 reels ?

Sea Draggin · 06-28-2009, 07:06 PM

I have learned many things from you guys, like "beginning with an overloaded rod" was a concept taught to me by ChrisW.

I can share with you that Pete and I spent a full day at the International Rod Building show trying to answer the question posed in this thread. "What is the best Blank for jigging fish under 100lbs in less than 300 of water?" We wanted to know for ourselves.

At the show we compared all the different lengths, actions and weights of the following blanks side by side:
Batson
Mudhole
Riley
Jigging Master
OTI
Jaws (that I brought)
superseaker(which are very strong but for a different application.)
Maybe another that I forget? Or that was forgettable?

I was pretty neat to have those blanks in one place an be able to feel the weights and actions and bounce back and forth to find the best for us.

We both felt that the Riley blanks had the best action, strength and price of all of the jigging blanks at the show. I don't care what the point of origin is, but that blank meets our needs. It wasn't heavy like some of the japanese rods. It wasn't too fast like others. It was parabolic and strong.

I personally like the way Paul does his guide placement much better than Mike, so I sent my blank to him. That has now become my favorite rod for the way it performs and paired with the alutecnos it is sex on stick.

Sea Draggin · 06-28-2009, 08:21 PM

PS. Even though this thread isn't about stock rods, I think the OTI G3 has the most potential of any stock out there. It feels so light that it is unbelievable. At the rod show we looked at G2, but Paul had G3 at the jigging get together in Morehead and I was extremely impressed.

And at $269, it is very affordable even for the beginner. It would get a consumer reports best buy if they reviewed jigging stuff.

Taz575 · 06-29-2009, 04:11 AM

Another thing to consider is how and when the jigging is done. From what most of the guys I fish with do, we troll out in the afternoon and set up to drift at night, with usually around 4 or 5 lines out various depths for swords, tuna and shark. We jig overnight when the captain is taking a nap. We need to use heavier jigs than normal, usually 8-12oz, sometimes 16+oz depending on the current. We do not want the jigs to scope out and tangle the other lines out there. Also, with that many lines out, we need to boat the fish quickly and be able to control it so it doesn't tangle the other lines that are out. So in the Northeast, the guys I am with want the heavier power rods. On top of those issues, we sometimes get into 150-200# BigEye, where you will want the heavier rod! We don't want the fight to take a long time because we still have to chunk, check the other baits, etc and usually only have 1 or 2 people awake at that time.

06-28-2009, 05:59 PM	#22
Sea Draggin www.easterntackle.com Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 5,568 Credits: 9,236.6 Best Catch: The next bite on a jig.	But it is easier for a beginner to fish an overloaded rod correctly. I would not recommend a rod that is too heavy. Even if a big fish is around, so what if it takes 10 minutes longer to land? Thats what your there for anyway, to fight fish. The beginner is just doing what they came for for a few minutes longer. I do agree that a trevala is good to start for stock rods. However, I would not trade one for the 200g Paul built me out of the riley blank for any amount of stock rods. And the thread is about what blank to buy, not what stock rod to buy. My answer for that would be a Diawa anyway, not Trevela. They are less expensive and stronger. __________________ . Vertical Jigs and Accessories.......................................Jigging Videos

06-28-2009, 07:06 PM	#24
Sea Draggin www.easterntackle.com Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 5,568 Credits: 9,236.6 Best Catch: The next bite on a jig.	I have learned many things from you guys, like "beginning with an overloaded rod" was a concept taught to me by ChrisW. I can share with you that Pete and I spent a full day at the International Rod Building show trying to answer the question posed in this thread. "What is the best Blank for jigging fish under 100lbs in less than 300 of water?" We wanted to know for ourselves. At the show we compared all the different lengths, actions and weights of the following blanks side by side: Batson Mudhole Riley Jigging Master OTI Jaws (that I brought) superseaker(which are very strong but for a different application.) Maybe another that I forget? Or that was forgettable? I was pretty neat to have those blanks in one place an be able to feel the weights and actions and bounce back and forth to find the best for us. We both felt that the Riley blanks had the best action, strength and price of all of the jigging blanks at the show. I don't care what the point of origin is, but that blank meets our needs. It wasn't heavy like some of the japanese rods. It wasn't too fast like others. It was parabolic and strong. I personally like the way Paul does his guide placement much better than Mike, so I sent my blank to him. That has now become my favorite rod for the way it performs and paired with the alutecnos it is sex on stick. __________________ . Vertical Jigs and Accessories.......................................Jigging Videos

06-28-2009, 08:21 PM	#25
Sea Draggin www.easterntackle.com Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 5,568 Credits: 9,236.6 Best Catch: The next bite on a jig.	PS. Even though this thread isn't about stock rods, I think the OTI G3 has the most potential of any stock out there. It feels so light that it is unbelievable. At the rod show we looked at G2, but Paul had G3 at the jigging get together in Morehead and I was extremely impressed. And at $269, it is very affordable even for the beginner. It would get a consumer reports best buy if they reviewed jigging stuff. __________________ . Vertical Jigs and Accessories.......................................Jigging Videos

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06-28-2009, 06:12 PM	#23
kilsong Sit down Shut up And fish Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 579 Credits: 3,260.2	OK, Jim. I like diversified opinions as we do many different things to catch same kind of fish. Fishermen eventually choose lighter rods/reels once they get more experience. I sell more lighter rods these days. See, I am trying to catch 100 lbs tuna with my JM PE4 reels ?

06-29-2009, 04:11 AM	#26
Taz575 Got fish Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 198 Credits: 1,394.5	Another thing to consider is how and when the jigging is done. From what most of the guys I fish with do, we troll out in the afternoon and set up to drift at night, with usually around 4 or 5 lines out various depths for swords, tuna and shark. We jig overnight when the captain is taking a nap. We need to use heavier jigs than normal, usually 8-12oz, sometimes 16+oz depending on the current. We do not want the jigs to scope out and tangle the other lines out there. Also, with that many lines out, we need to boat the fish quickly and be able to control it so it doesn't tangle the other lines that are out. So in the Northeast, the guys I am with want the heavier power rods. On top of those issues, we sometimes get into 150-200# BigEye, where you will want the heavier rod! We don't want the fight to take a long time because we still have to chunk, check the other baits, etc and usually only have 1 or 2 people awake at that time.