"Acid Wrap" Rods... is it just a gimic??

DoubleA_FL · 10-08-2009, 12:05 AM

ok guys - i have three or four rods in the works right now but once they are all done the next rod i will do is a conventional jigging setup. maybe with one of those BA Talica IIs on it!!!

i have seen that some of you have acid wrapped rods and some are just standard conventional style.

so let the opinions fly! does the acid wrap make a difference? if i have two blanks side by side, same fish on both, would i prefer to fight it on the acid wrap over a standard conventional?

any data, opinions, video, myth, et cetera would be greatly appreciated! thanks!

tight lines,
aaron

Sea Draggin · 10-08-2009, 12:19 AM

On lighter rods (100-300g) its the only way to go if you are doing custom. Its good for the blank and good for you.

On 300 -600g you could go either way, but conventions have a tendency to develop a half hitch over the end of the rod while jigging. I have a theory that when the jig closes the half hitch it damages the tip leading to breakage. This doesn't happen as much with sprial because the lines slides off the top of the rod instead of hanging on the guides.

DoubleA_FL · 10-08-2009, 12:25 AM

thanks!

i have been reading all the old threads(which admittedly i should have done before i posted this one) and the benefits have been explained - i hadnt run accross the gram weight difference before, so thanks SD.

since i read alot about it, DONT FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS NEED TO REPLY TO THIS THREAD - how about everyone just post pictures of some BAD AS$ acid wraps to get me fired up about ordering one!!

Paul, you should encourage them! hahahahaha

tight lines
aaron

thanks again guys!

paul708 · 10-09-2009, 05:36 PM

its been around since 1909...a fad?
if you dont ask for the "guides on top"..most times you get a acid rod

i havent had anyone return and say i dont like how it works.

a few months ago i sent a rod to a guy for his lady..of course it was ACID.
he called after opening, and though something happened

we really didnt talk about acid or not.

i told him dont worry..to try it. if you dont like i will do the other way.
he calls back a few hours after he gives it to her.
she loves it.
her brother has always wanted to try a acid..

here is a vid we shot.. great day on the admins boat..
JPR RODS VID

paul708 · 10-09-2009, 05:46 PM

here are afew...nothing fancy...just quality

Sea Draggin · 10-09-2009, 11:29 PM

Paul,
I like the fact you do yours with a two guide transition. I can't stand a one guide(bumper) transition. They made not be the fanciest, but more importantly they work perfectly.

Taz575 · 10-10-2009, 04:24 AM

I'll play! I prefer the single guide transition, but I have done some with the 2 guide transition.

Super Seeker Hercules 60H's:

Pulling 33# of drag:

Calstar Grafighter 800H cut to 6'6" from the butt with 33# dumbell being lifted:

Cod Rods:

Fluke Rods:

On another note, they work awesome! I built up a Grafighter 700M for a Cod Rod, the customer could pull 15-20# of drag with it with one hand! The spiral makes the rods very stable in the hand while fighting fish. Plus, I find I can usually use fewer guides and smaller framed guides because I don't have to worry about the line hitting the blank except for the transition area. Not a gimick, they actually work!

flatliner · 10-10-2009, 09:20 AM

Its my opinion that the 3 guide transition works better on shorter rods. The goal is getting that line underneath the rod in as short a span as possible. 3 guide transition, 4 guide transition, neutral first guide, offset first guide, it doesn't matter, IT WORKS!!!!!!!

Kevin

Taz575 · 10-10-2009, 10:35 AM

Yup! I do mine a little different with the taller stripper right near the foregrip, and then drop the line down to the bottom as quick as possible. I set my bumper guide by loading the rod to pretty much the max drag, and mark where the line crosses the 90 degree of the blank, thats where the stripper goes. That way, the line is pushing the guide back into the blank, no vertical loading

shoefish · 10-10-2009, 10:48 AM

I made my first two this past off season and have loved them so far. They feel really stable while they're under a heavy load, and until I find some sort of a drawback to them I'll continue to build them that way.

Transition

Under Load (Tuna Max Heavy ~350g rod)

Give them a shot, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

10-08-2009, 12:19 AM	#2
Sea Draggin www.easterntackle.com Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 5,637 Credits: 9,467.3 Best Catch: The next bite on a jig.	On lighter rods (100-300g) its the only way to go if you are doing custom. Its good for the blank and good for you. On 300 -600g you could go either way, but conventions have a tendency to develop a half hitch over the end of the rod while jigging. I have a theory that when the jig closes the half hitch it damages the tip leading to breakage. This doesn't happen as much with sprial because the lines slides off the top of the rod instead of hanging on the guides. __________________ . 30% OFF END OF SEASON SALE <----CLICK.................................Jigging Videos

10-08-2009, 12:25 AM	#3
DoubleA_FL "If at first you don't succeed, don't try skydiving" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 122 Credits: 444.1 Boat: anyone i am let on :) Home Port: St. Petersburg, FL Best Catch: 64" Sailfish in Key West, 04-09	thanks! i have been reading all the old threads(which admittedly i should have done before i posted this one) and the benefits have been explained - i hadnt run accross the gram weight difference before, so thanks SD. since i read alot about it, DONT FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS NEED TO REPLY TO THIS THREAD - how about everyone just post pictures of some BAD AS$ acid wraps to get me fired up about ordering one!! Paul, you should encourage them! hahahahaha tight lines aaron thanks again guys! Last edited by DoubleA_FL; 10-08-2009 at 12:26 AM.

10-09-2009, 11:29 PM	#6
Sea Draggin www.easterntackle.com Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 5,637 Credits: 9,467.3 Best Catch: The next bite on a jig.	Paul, I like the fact you do yours with a two guide transition. I can't stand a one guide(bumper) transition. They made not be the fanciest, but more importantly they work perfectly. __________________ . 30% OFF END OF SEASON SALE <----CLICK.................................Jigging Videos

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10-10-2009, 04:24 AM	#7
Taz575 Got fish Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 198 Credits: 1,405.2	I'll play! I prefer the single guide transition, but I have done some with the 2 guide transition. Super Seeker Hercules 60H's: Pulling 33# of drag: Calstar Grafighter 800H cut to 6'6" from the butt with 33# dumbell being lifted: Cod Rods: Fluke Rods: On another note, they work awesome! I built up a Grafighter 700M for a Cod Rod, the customer could pull 15-20# of drag with it with one hand! The spiral makes the rods very stable in the hand while fighting fish. Plus, I find I can usually use fewer guides and smaller framed guides because I don't have to worry about the line hitting the blank except for the transition area. Not a gimick, they actually work!

10-10-2009, 10:35 AM	#9
Taz575 Got fish Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 198 Credits: 1,405.2	Yup! I do mine a little different with the taller stripper right near the foregrip, and then drop the line down to the bottom as quick as possible. I set my bumper guide by loading the rod to pretty much the max drag, and mark where the line crosses the 90 degree of the blank, thats where the stripper goes. That way, the line is pushing the guide back into the blank, no vertical loading

10-10-2009, 10:48 AM	#10
shoefish Chum Nuts Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Portsmouth NH Posts: 5,307 Credits: 6,064.0	I made my first two this past off season and have loved them so far. They feel really stable while they're under a heavy load, and until I find some sort of a drawback to them I'll continue to build them that way. Transition Under Load (Tuna Max Heavy ~350g rod) Give them a shot, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.