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THE NAME STUCK
Directly from rodbuilding.org:
"Acid Wrap; Another term for the spiral wrap. The term originated on the West Coast when one proponent of the wrap, rod builder Jim Racela, was asked if he was on "acid" when he wrapped his rod in spiral fashion. The name stuck."
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ridley, PA
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I wear cool logos
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Point Pleasant N.J.
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Home Port: Manasquan River N.J.
Best Catch: 3 kids, 2 grandkids
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If torgue is an issue it would be obvious that the higher the guide is above the blank, the more torque. If true then roller guides should show more torque than a lower framed guide. Does the theory apply to offshore rods as well as inshore? If it does, and it should, then rollers could be considered obsolete. or what am I missing?
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Posts: 3,706
Credits: 2,984.6
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,i will be up next week to pick up all your roller guides you wont be using ![]() ![]() yes, the higher the ring the more torque is noticed. with Higher rated rods it may take more torque to notice..so the effect may not be as great.. We also do ACID ROLLER guides ![]() ![]() |
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I wear cool logos
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Point Pleasant N.J.
Posts: 57
Credits: 1,326.0
Boat: Radio controlled Coast guard cutter
Home Port: Manasquan River N.J.
Best Catch: 3 kids, 2 grandkids
Occupation: Custom Rod Builder
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I build a lot of sets of rods with ceramics/roller tip and think its a better value based on savings of components, and good performance. I think the guy with the Bertram, Viking, Hat and so on would rather look at a non spiral rod, even if the other may have a performance edge. Who was it that tested this theory? Is the torgue affected area generally near the tip. Do Acid rods torque any where, perhaps midships? |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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![]() but i still may stop in ![]() the guy with the bert/hat/vik go to my post about promotion.. if it looks a little different,,and works a little better,, some people may not accept UNTIL promoted to death.. look at the travela's..promoted to death..but not really used by hardcore Jig guys ![]() ![]() |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toms River, NJ
Posts: 2,554
Credits: 5,043.2
Boat: 24 proline cc and 33 pace express
Home Port: Forked River NJ
Best Catch: EST. Grander In Toms Canyon/ 145lb allison/ 250lb mako/58lb cobia, 1st place 1996 miami metropolitan
Occupation: Self Employed Repossession
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let me throw in my little knowledge here...
just for an fyi about the roller guide stuff here guys... we were in mako mania this year on the edge of the glory hole.. had a whole bluefish out on a double hook rig and it took off on a clastar graphiter 60-130 and an aleutecnos 50w 2speed spooled with 80lb diamond and a 400lb mono top shot.. this fish hit and hit hard as hell... it took off and i was on this fish for 2 1/2 hours and when i had this fish off the stern starboard corner and it would dive deep the line would twist over onto the side of the roller guide making me nervous it would scrape and snap.. the fish came up and it was a huge mak aronud 500lbs and the biggest thing i have ever seen.. the torque this fish put on this rod made me want to go all acid.. with fishing up and down like jigging it is a definate problem i see a lot when fish are straight down.. especially sword fishing.. i mean it does work with rollers but you can see the torque a lot on a big fish.. we had a 200lb swordy 2 years ago and when we got it to the surface it decided to take off and the line chaffed like a son of a bisquit.. luckily it didnt snap but we got it back to the reel and it was about 50 feet above the 12' leader and it was fried and it was not from the bill or the fish.. it was def from the rollers!!! |
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Newbie on board
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 12
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Home Port: Chatham Ma
Best Catch: 135# tuna
Occupation: Own custom rod company
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TO ROLL OR NOT TO ROLL...
I've built in-shore and off-shore Acid Wrap rods. I've built 'em with rollers and w/out rollers. I've built 'em with the stripper-guide as a roller and tip with a roller. It's the comfort level of the guy who wants the rods. Next year 2009 - I'll have these available in my PRO-SERIES line up. Check out: www.diablosportfishing.com and go to FISH REPORTS...
GET BENT!
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I just had a spiral wrap pole made for me in the spring. It was on a lamiglass triflex blank. The physics behind them are sound. Simple test: loosely hold the pole with the reel on it and start to put tension against the line. It will pop the reel up to the top. As stated before the line is always trying to fight to the lowest position available. Try the same thing with a standard wrap. Not tested yet but I think one would not need a belt to slide the gimble into because of the stability of the rod. Just a brace to keep the bruising down
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I wear cool logos
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seminole Fl
Posts: 57
Credits: 1,328.6
Boat: 28 Hydra Sport
Home Port: Johns Pass
Best Catch: 264 lb Yellowfin 190# Halibut
Occupation: Custom Fishing Rod Builder
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Spine the blanks and rod will never twist
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I use Winthrop for the reel monsters,there is not a better roller guide on the market,period. |
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