Acid wrap rods?

[kilsong]

Kevin,
As you know, I am not afraid of experimenting many new stuffs, new technique and new ideas if it makes sense.
I don't know anybody has used acid wrapped rods as much as I do for powerful fish like tuna, AJ or grouper recently.
I had my rod builder build 6 - 7 custom rods with acid wrapped, short or long last year alone.
I have testing acid wrapped rods intensively and extensively for years and I made a conclusion that acid wrapped rods considerably reduce wobbling problems of reels while fighting big fish. I was concerned the acid wrapped rods could affect casting distance, but I did not notice it at all.
It takes time public get used to acid wrapped concept and they might never ger popular except some fishermen and rod builders. It is very hard to change mixed concept or ideas which have been around so long. When Dennis Braid saw my all acid wrapped rods at Canyon Runner's seminar, he said he wouldn't use acid wrapped rods. I don't think he ever used acid wrapped rods at all.
But one thing is sure that all my custom rods will be acid wrapped rods as I don't see any disadvantage of acid rods compared to conventional rods.

[paul708]

Originally Posted by Fish Poison Rods

I see the arguement that its a double edged sword, if the other stuff is already selling, why compete with it. The golf club industry does the opposite. I build golf clubs as a hobbie, but cant say I know how to make a good one, I just like doing it. If you saw the components buiseness here you would see that these guys support every new item that comes out. If its a reasonably sound idea, the consumer would demand it.
I dont see why the cost of building one should be much higher. explain.
A rod twisting slightly versus dramatically is nothing to worry about. Calstar rod blanks are one of the most popular in the world and are on the most expensive rods. Many are not straight, have snakes in the upper fifth, no big deal.

Kevin..i dont think its about cost..
its about marketing. IMHO

i started rodbuilding with a acid wrapped rods,
they were not avail for us..so i learned to build them.

i am sure once they become popular you will be seeing alot of cheap junk out there for sale

[sportfishingusa]

straight, acid, backwards....

i say do what you want.. production of acid wrapped rods will never hit a production level.. i just dont think it can be done right in a factory and if it was.. they would be 1000 dollars because of the build..

not saying they are horribly hard to do once you learn it but finding people to do it is another thing...

i got one from paul and let me tell you something..
i trolled that biotch striper fishing last year!!!!! i caught 2 40lbers on it on the troll and 2 30lbers on live bunker off seaside last year and it does feel a lot more stable compared to anything..

i refuse to put on a fighting belt unless completely necessary and this rod just stays put.... even in a rod belt i can see it staying straight up and down or straight out like it should with out moving all around and coming out of the cross member in the belt..

i just think these rods offer so much more to people especially in stability!!

[gladwin]

Every good blank has a spine, the very experienced rod builders know it. so they will mark the spine direction(angle) before start to build the rod. A good spinning & a good convertional rod all got the guides lying on the spine. 0 degree for spinning and 180 degree for conventional. So when these rods bend, the spine is just bend and not twist, keep the rod material( glassfiber or graphite whatever)closer toghther to against the downward-pulling strength.

[Fish Poison Rods]

Kilsong, you cant argue experience and certainly you have plenty. I have noticed that Seeker comes out with new stuff every year, eg; Super Seeker. Put an extra X on something and the fishermen have got to have it. You would think that with a standup rod 40-100lb, 50-120 this should apply. Perhaps in time it will.

[paul708]

Originally Posted by Fish Poison Rods

Kilsong, you cant argue experience and certainly you have plenty. I have noticed that Seeker comes out with new stuff every year, eg; Super Seeker. Put an extra X on something and the fishermen have got to have it. You would think that with a standup rod 40-100lb, 50-120 this should apply. Perhaps in time it will.

Kevin..i saw calstar put a X on their "new" blanks also..
the SS have been out for a few years..great blanks..

[Fish Poison Rods]

Paul, I think the X means that they have a slightly less butt diameter to slow down the action. Some of the standard GF's are available this way, some are not.

[diablo]

Local hooker rods from Chatam has been making acid wraps for a while. I personally Have three 30-50# class rods and 2 50-100# class rods and after using them I would not go back to regular sticks.

[LOCALHOOKER]

These rods have been around for 100 years! The first patent was issued in 1902. An Acid Rod is the best of both worlds; conventional & spinning. Acid wrap,also known as a “Spiral Wrapped Rod” or a "Roberts Rod" is a conventional rod where the guides start out on top of the blank and then rotate around and under the blank. This guide placement reduces torque allowing you to fight larger fish on lighter tackle with less fatigue. The ONLY way to really appreciate this rod is to have it properly built! It MUST be spined properly and have a deflection test to ensure it is built right. Just because I can buy all the parts to build a Bentley doesn't mean it's gonna be a well-built car! See, it has to be built properly... These rods got a bad rap years ago because they were built with no integrity and precision (sound like a lot of crap we buy from China?). They didn't cast well and didn't reel well. No more. We've designed and built some of the best Acid Wrap rods in the world. Check it out!

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[gottaflylee]

There is no doubt that acid warped rods for conventional reels is the way to go. The biggest problem is with the general population not understanding the basics of the wrap, heck for that matter, 2/3s of the population has never heard of them. If you could get 2 of the (and I hate to say this) top Pro Bass guys to indorse the wrap, you could not keep them on the shelves. Every Bubba like me would have to have one...