Purchased a Sea Pro 238 WA last year and never did get a chance to fish. I decided this year to learn to fish. Recently purchased a trolling rig and a boat casting rig. The trolling rig has wire line - - - the sales rep stated that I simply tie the lure or hook directly to the wire line for trolling - - -however, he never told me how to tie/knot this wire line to hooks or lures. I could use some help here.
Building facilities manager and (part time)charter capt
Wrong!! you need a coastlock style snap swivel attached to the wire via a haywire twist. Then you can;
1.) attach an in-line troling sinker
2.)attach another coastlock to a lenght of mono or florocarbon leader, 50-80#
3.)to the other end of your leader attach your bait, bucktail,spoon, parachute, surgical eel umbrella etc.
Having snap swivels on the wire and the leader allows you to change/vary your trolling weight. I'm assuming you are going to wire-line troll for stripers.there are ohter methods but that should get you started.It is single strand wire right?
wire lines work great! sometimes first out and last in!
we use the swivels like he said up there^^^^... we use them for kingfish wahoo dolphin tuna anything that eats on top sometimes eats better down some! we usually use 1 -2 lb weights also to get it down deep and you can pull them fast. just remember a good drag and a lot of line will catch anything that swims!
So, sounds like you attach the coastlock to the wire.
attach a coast lock to the drail,on both ends
makea leader out of fliuro
attach the drail to the wire
attach the leder to the rail
atttach umbrella/rig to the leaderend ?
Thanks for the help - - even being a novice it seemed odd to just connect directly to the wire. The wire line is single strand and the gamefish I'm hoping to find is the striper. Any other hints would be helpful - - -thanks again!!
I always attach a short section of mono to the wire before the snap swivel. I find that protects the wire from kinking and makes the rig easier to handle when deploying and retrieving the rigs. It is my experience that you don't want wire to be at the rod tip when the rod is in storage, it is best to be all on the spool of the reel or starting up the rod. I will try to post up a picture of how i make the connection but basically I take the wire (monel is best) give myself a 12 to 18 inch lead, run the wire one complete loop around a nail or ice pick to put a nice round loop in the end and then do a haywire twist. One important key is to break off the excess wire by twisting it rather than cutting with your pliers, this helps the wire end tuck in nicely and not leave a sharp edge to cut your catch your finger. I take a 12 foot section of mono (50-80 lbs), double it and tie the cut ends to a snap swivel with a sinch knot (keep the two lines parallel and tie the knot just like it was one line). Then connect the mono to the wire loop by a simple loop to loop connection, running the doubled mone end through the wire loop then around the snap swivel end. It is a few extra steps but makes life much easier when handling the rod. Wire line is succeptable to kinking when not under tension (like if not on the rod or in the spool) while you are leadering a fish and you are not looking at it, next thing you know it is parting on you the next time a nice fish is on it.
This is why some many just use braided spectra lines when trolling deep lines, most will tell you that a wire line will outcatch the braid but just takes alot more care.
Building facilities manager and (part time)charter capt
When the braid came out alot of Capts switched over saying it swims just as good if not better then wire.It works good for going deeper then mono but the monel goes where i want it and stays there. A lot of guys went to the Penn levelwinders
when they came out(320,330,345) to better manage it back onto the reel and that worked. I've still got 4 Penn 49s, that's right narrow spool 49s rebuilt with ht100 drag washers on roller tipped rods just for wire and still fish them. It's kind of funny to see some the offshore Capts give those 49s a double take since the only way alot of those guys ever used them was for teaser reels!
I like to use a haywire twist to a Spro wind-on swivel. From there I have the choice of using a double snap swivel through the wind -on swivel. This will allow me to snap in an inline sinker to troll. If I want to wireline jig or use bunker spoons I tie on a 7 foot section of leader to the wind-on swivel. Lastly if I want to bottom bounce the lumps I use the double snap to the wind-on and attach a three-way. Off of the three-way I make a drop for my weight about 3 foot and a leader section of about 12 foot. The wind-on swivel allows me quick and easy re-rigging while on the boat. I hope this helps.
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