Warfare Erodes American Freedoms to the Point of Tyranny

[longfisher]

Jonathan Turley, as esteemed professor of law at Georgetown University wrote a terrific summary of how we have many of our freedoms and protections have eroded during the War on Terror. You can read it here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...y.html?hpid=z3

But here's the list (Turley lists 10, I added another).

Extraordinary rendition
Continual monitoring of citizens
Immunity from judicial review
Secret court
War crimes
Secret evidence
Warrantless searches
Arbitrary justice
Indefinite detention
Assassination of U.S. citizens
Revocation of Habeus Corpus

To your eternal shame, most conservatives and now ever more often most Obamaites have remained mute about these losses. But particularly the conservatives deserve blame as they never cease to portray themselves as protectors of these freedom when they silently acquiesce to their loss.

Only the Libertarians have an unbesmerched record of their defense. I'm voting Paul.

LF

[longfisher]

Taken from:

(1) Codify indefinite detention into law;
(2) draw up a secret kill list of people, including American citizens, to assassinate without due process;
(3) proceed with warrantless spying on American citizens;
(4) prosecute Bush-era whistleblowers for violating state secrets;
(5) reinterpret the War Powers Resolution such that entering a war of choice without a Congressional declaration is permissible;
(6) enter and prosecute such a war;
(7) institutionalize naked scanners and intrusive full body pat-downs in major American airports;
(8) oversee a planned expansion of TSA so that its agents are already beginning to patrol American highways, train stations, and bus depots;
(9) wage an undeclared drone war on numerous Muslim countries that delegates to the CIA the final call about some strikes that put civilians in jeopardy;
(10) invoke the state-secrets privilege to dismiss lawsuits brought by civil-liberties organizations on dubious technicalities rather than litigating them on the merits;
(11) preside over federal raids on medical marijuana dispensaries;
(12) attempt to negotiate an extension of American troops in Iraq beyond 2011 (an effort that thankfully failed);
(13) reauthorize the Patriot Act;
(14) and select an economic team mostly made up of former and future financial executives from Wall Street firms that played major roles in the financial crisis.

I'd like to hear what Zummie has to say about all these things Obama did to us and why, in light of them, he still supports Obama's re-election.

LF

[marine4003]

If ever there was a standing US president who needs to be tried for treason..it whould be obama, all one has to do is show campaing speeches from 4 years ago..and what its like now..Hung from the neck until dead. end of story.

[longfisher]

If ever there was a standing US president who needs to be tried for treason..it whould be obama, all one has to do is show campaing speeches from 4 years ago..and what its like now..Hung from the neck until dead. end of story.

...in perfect concordance with the above quote.

LF

[Big Fish Billy]

It's a shame, but we better get used to it....with Romney and Gingrich as front runners....Obama won't have to say a word, and he'll sled right back in.......

[marine4003]

See, thats the funny thing, America has definitely been dumbed down, people are sick of there elected "leaders" who all share common traits..first being..POLITITIONS which translates into say whatever ,which will get one in office..then do what you want..so our frontrunner's are newt..romney...bama.
how fucking stupid can people be ? elect ANYONE of these turds..and expect different results..F.I. I'm gonna start smokin crack , and live off the system at that point.
PS- Can anyone tell me HOW does one smoke crack?

[vic34]

I don't know if America is stupid or just lazy. I am truely worried about the future.

[marine4003]

either one is dangerous, and our govt knows it..the one's in the background fighting to keep any semblance of our Constitution alive, are out gunned and yet they keep on.show some support where ever, and how ever possable.

[longfisher]

If ever there was a standing US president who needs to be tried for treason..it whould be obama, all one has to do is show campaing speeches from 4 years ago..and what its like now..Hung from the neck until dead. end of story.

"NEW YORK - The owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, Andrew Adler, has suggested that Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu consider ordering a Mossad hit team to assassinate U.S. President Barack Obama so that his successor will defend Israel against Iran."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/internat...obama-1.408429

I'm not trying to hijack this thread but rather to pre-empt it's hijack...

Marine, I know you defend the Jews each time I post a thread critical of them and, especially when I say they amount to a fifth column here in the U.S. It's cool. I respect your views.

But you might want to moderate your defense of them when I suggest that they're desperate to involve the U.S. in another war we don't want. The evidence is virtually everywhere on the Internet in article after article after article, as evidenced by the above link from Heraatz, no less.

Remember, the Jews' martial music prominently incudes the piece "Onward Christian Soldier". Christian Americans are crazy as all get out to send their children to fight against Islamist for the sake of Jews who so despise us and who so abuse the good will of our "Christian" nation. At least, Obama is making it clear to the Jews (and the rest of the world) that Zionist interests are not always in perfect concordance with American interests.

Like Ron Paul says, cut off all foreign aid, including that to Israel, and stop interfering with Israel's sovereign perogatives to go to war with whoever they want...ALONE.

For those who don't consider the Jews to be either 1) antagonistic to the interests of the U.S., or, 2) to be Israel-firsters, or, 3) at the least to have dual loyalties just read this summary of how many Jewish-American political figures, including some very powerful members of Congress, speak of their duties to Israel in the below article written...wait for it...by a Jew named Weiss.

http://www.eurasiareview.com/2101201...nt-truth-oped/

LF

[marine4003]

The only reason i defend them, is i respect there tenacity, i respect there ability to get hammered down..spit on and generally decimated..only to come back strong..and overcome any adversity to become a major player on the world stage, i would admire that of most anyone, we only have our selfs to blame for there recurring ability to drag us into stew pots we dint need/want to be in. As far as getting into it with iran..hell no. Not for anyone ,over anything. We need to bring our boys home,,approve the XL..drill offshore and tell the ME to go away,and stay gone..including SA..our allies...hahahaha. Right there..thats my ME policy..said and done.