Very Powerful Ad..."I'm not voting Republican because I remember..."

[longfisher]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skEccqJFFU0

Don't think it'll work, but, it's truthful as all getout.

The only thing they left out of their "remembrances" was that the Republicans were in power during the worst terrorist attack on our country ever.

I don't think it'll work because people also remember when Obama said he'd support (but didn't) the:

1) Return of the rule of law and applying the law to everyone equally (he didn't prosecute Bush / Cheney).

2) The invasions of privacy of the security state (he voted to provide immunity to the telecoms)

3) The Public Option (he killed it in the womb to make a deal with the hospitals and big pharma).

4) The end of "too-big-to-fail" (the financial reform bill has allowed the banksters to actually grow larger and more profitable than ever before)

5) The consumer protection agency headed by Elizabeth Warren (he was too chicken to submit her name for confirmation of the post and, instead, made her some sort of advisor / creator of the agency)

6) The end of our foreign war in Iraq (he's leaving 50,000 troops in Iraq in perpetuity).

7) The closure of Guantanamo (it remains open today).

8) The trial of terrorists in U.S. Federal Courts (they remain in Guantanamo today, mostly untried or tried only in military kangaroo courts called commissions).

9) The elimination of torture and abuse (the massive detention center in Baghram AFB in Afghanistan is closed to the Red Cross and is rumored to be a pit of torture, rape, abuse and murder by the CIA).

10) The Novel Peace Prize (his acceptance speech was a defense of war and he almost immediately afterwards escalated the war in Afghanistan by sening in 30,000 more troops).

Etc, etc, etc.

Zummie, in general, you and I agree on a lot of things. But can you please reconcile your continued support of Obama in light of his listed failures above. When I went to the polls, I couldn't.

To

1) paraphrase Steven Higgs recent article on this point when he said that Obama didn't live up to his billing and it ain't going to sell well and

2) the prevalent policy in the DOD of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

Zummie the undeniable fact that Obama didn't act as he said he would made it a hard sell to support his party this election...or...

Didn't Act Don't Sell.

LongFisher

[obxfish]

How did that election work out for you today LF?

[scattered_grass]

please, please, please shut the f up about the whole war crimes bs. Nobody cares and you sound like a whack job.

[longfisher]

please, please, please shut the f up about the whole war crimes bs. Nobody cares and you sound like a whack job.

I've never felt uncomfortable advocating unpopular positions on political and legal issues. If you believe it makes me sound nutty, your opinion is within your providence and I respect that.

My take on it is that, like Ron Paul (the only Republican who genuinely cares about principles), people need to be challenged and challenged repeatedly about Americna principles and the rule of law. So, I'm going to do it.

LongFisher

[longfisher]

How did that election work out for you today LF?

Essentially the way I'd have scripted it if it were to have been a Broadway play. I liked the result.

If you'd take the trouble to actually read some of my posts, including the post directly above yours in this thread which you must have missed or something, you'd discover that I'm unhappy with Obama and the Democrats as they didn't hold fast to principles and promises. They needed a spanking and they got one.

The election results were just fine with me. Or, were you confusing me with a liberal?

You guys are so black and white, good and evil, night and day. You just can't seem to imagine that there's someone out there who expects the political system to serve us instead of themselves and the monied interests and who doesn't give a hoot which one is in power because it makes no difference in practical terms.

There's more out there than just right and left. But you don't seem to have grasped that concept.

LongFisher

[Curmudgeon]

Or, were you confusing me with a liberal?

It's hard to separate the real you from all the bovine fecal matter. You independents did a good job starting the recovery from the disaster you orchestrated created in '06/08, though ...

[hubris 1]

Franklin? He couldnt even stand up to them. He is responsible for all the social ******** that this country now embraces. I think he was president when the germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

[obxfish]

No LF, Im not confused about anything, I know a liberal when I hear one. I think your quite satisfied with Obama.

[longfisher]

No LF, Im not confused about anything, I know a liberal when I hear one. I think your quite satisfied with Obama.

I hope he gets a primary challenger and is off the Democratic ticket, period, in 2012. He's essentially a black Jimmy Carter who, like Carter, can't seem to govern. There's nothing to like about him.j

You confuse my disgust with Republicans for loyalty to the Democrats or for a liberal slant. Republicans are vermin, pure and simple as they more so than any party are anti-middle class, the class I'm in and most of you are in.

But so too are most Democrats. There's very little difference between the two parties at all, but for the rhetoric.

That's why I'm so profoundly sorry that the Tea Party was absorbed by the GOP. If ever there was an excellent opportunity for a genuinely independent third party to form in America is was during the financial crisis.

One did. But then it couldn't stand on it's own two feet without crying to big brother for campaign money. That was the end of the Tea Party.

It's a great pity. America desparately needs more than two parties so that a form of coalition government is required to govern rather than winner take all elections. The whipsaw effect of that the wrenching changes in government policy that happen every 8 years, on average, is extremely damaging...and radicalizing.

LongFisher