View Poll Results: Should a manufacturer be honest?

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  • Yes. Honesty is the best policy.

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  • No, some manufacturers can't sell boats unless they lie.

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  • The economy will weed out dishonest people.

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  • No cuz I like seeing "Mr Lemon" beat the green out of this dead horse.

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  • Odds are Mr Brown wants Phyllis to fight his battles.

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  • Worldcat Lemon needs his head examined, everybody is a liar, except me.

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  • WC is like fishermen, they all lie about the length, girth, and performance.

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Thread: Scandal BY World Cat and Town Creek Marina

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    So you include the top (Its not because its an option not included in net weight but whatever)
    Hull with twin diesels 5000lbs
    Trailer 1850lbs (given the weight of your trailer you either had either one of two RKPK-28TRB powercat RoadKing trailers one of which has a carrying capacity not including the trailer of 9000lbs (gvw 11000lb) or the heavier axled one which has a carrying capacity of 10,700lbs(gvw 12900lb). Even the smallest one long enough to carry your boat has a carrying cap not including the trailer itself is 8500lbs)by the way according to Road King they dont put 2950lb axles on any of their cat trailers that size.
    =6850lbs round up to 7000lbs just to be safe. So even if you include the weight of the trailer (which you dont)and you had nothing else on the boat your trailer was perfectly able to safely and legally carry your boat.
    I think you need to learn how to figure weight and capacity before you start blaming people for your issues. Have a nice day.
    Sorry I missed your question, Im currently boatless. I sold my 29' Scarab Sport a year or so ago then my 20' Chris Craft last year. We are going to be moving in the near future and until we get settled in there is no point in buying a new one until we see how close to the coast we will be. That will in part determine what kind of boat I buy, trailerable, or slip. I moved once having to relocate two boats, and I dont see the need to do it again, since it will most likely be cross country. See I make sure I find out all the possibilities and issues before I do something stupid, but you go on trying to make that seem relevant to your whining.
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    wrong

    Noodleduck,

    trailer model: RKPK26TRB3
    Vin#:5KZBB263X8A019726
    MAX load capacity: 9,200 lbs
    GVW: 11,000 lbs max

    Manufacturers sticker says "WEIGHT OF CARGO SHOULD NEVER EXCEED 9,200 LBS"

    I had the boat and trailer weighed together and it weighed 11,340 lbs . Trailer weighs 1,850. So that means the boat weighs over 9,000 lbs.

    Seems you know more than the part owner of Road King Trailers named Steve. He told me that the trailer is overloaded for the axles and that Town Creek screwed up and needs to replace them, Scott from World Cat looked at the trailer in Dec. 2008 and he said he could see the tires tip out at the bottom, Steve Tulevech at Town Creek Marina acknowledged that it has the wrong axles and promised to fix it, I had 2 tire companies look at it and they said there was a problem with the axles( especially since the inside edges of all 6 tires fell apart, so I guess you know more than everyone who has had anything to do with it.

    These are a 5 lug axle and according to Steve at Road King they are 2950 lb axles. So Mr. Axle expert, Wikipedia champion what ya got to say bout that?

    Give Road King a call and give em my vin and model and see what they say!

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    So you stuck a 27' boat on a trailer made for a boat no longer than 26' sounds about right to me. My question is if its a new trailer how is it Town Creeks fault if it had the wrong axles on it? When did you weigh the boat and trailer before or after a cross country haul? Seems to me you should have found this out before towing anything cross country. Oh yeah I think thats been brought up before. Ultimately you drove the tow vehicle you're responsible for knowing what your rig weighs. I do believe they have weigh stations all over NC. So whos fault is that?
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    By the way my trailer axles are 5 by 4 1/2 bolt pattern and they are 3500lb. Just thought youd like to know and they are marked right on the axle. Its kinda funny, Road King axles go from 1560lb (4lug) to 3500lb (5lug) they dont even offer a 2950lb axle. You cant even build a 2950lb axle with their spring packs. But hey its your story you keep telling it how you want.

    For everything that was wrong with your rig and you didnt see any of it, I say you're a F%$king Idiot. Thats what I have to say about it.

    Good luck with your next purchase, Im sure we'll hear all about it, when you screw it up as well. I mean when you get screwed over by everyone else. Have fun Im done playing with you, you're starting to bore me.
    Last edited by nautiduck; 12-06-2009 at 10:45 PM.

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    Noodleduck

    After waiting 6 days for good ol' TCM to do repairs on my boat I was in no mood to be crawling around the trailer looking at the axles the NIGHT they finished it, especially when I was already angry about TCM damaging the sponsons and trying to hide it with Black spray paint. I should have walked away right then.

    I had only seen the trailer for about 5 minutes before Jeremy at TCM hauled the boat off to the outboard shop to work on the boat.

    If I had bought the boat from a private guy I would have looked much harder at every detail, but when you are told the trailer is correct by a World Cat dealer you expect them to be competent enough to sell you the appropriate trailer. But I was wrong, they were not competent.

    It's like buying an F350 where a dealer installed a lift kit, a reasonable person would expect it to be done right. The buyer should be able to trust that the "dealer" should be competent enough that the buyer doesn't have to drive it all over town to have multiple 4x4 experts look at it to make sure it was done right. There should be some level of consumer trust, but in this case you are right, I should have called you for your expert opinion.

    I didn't weigh the boat and trailer until I got home after replacing the new tires with new tires at 2,000 miles. That was my first clue something was wrong.

    Town Creek acknowledged they screwed up, so who is responsible? Should a dealer know if the trailer is the proper one before they sell it to a consumer?? According to Road King's DEALER ordering paperwork, it says the boat and trailer must be weighed together to ensure compatibility. I found this out after contacting Road King. So it is the dealers responsibility to check this before selling it to the consumer. I guess in your opinion they don't need to, as you know more than everyone out there.Why don't you give Road King a call and check out "my story".

    Bored? Go read something else. You bored me 18 pages ago with lame expert opinion. How'd my offer to send you a free bottle of Focus factor sound? Be glad to help you out, it would even benefit your wikipedia reading.

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    Maybe if we all ignore it, he will dry up and blow away. Like that skull and bones guy from last year.

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    Neighbor's???,

    Wouldn't be a coincedence, seeing how Duck Miester is looking for gainful employment. He could end up out west and be LemonDrop's new neighbor. I can see it now, the new version of "Grumpier Old Men", what a hoot !!! Wonder which one would be Walter Mathow. Frank

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