Scandal BY World Cat and Town Creek Marina

[fishfighter]

WCL,I feel for you. I always though WC boats were top cats. After reading there response,there boat did get knocked off my short list. Keep us up dated.

[Big Fish Billy]

I hope this thread can spare one prospective boat buyer the headaches I have had to deal with by this thread. If I can help one purchaser avoid boat manufacturers, and sales people that treat boat purchasers in ways that are questionable then the time I put into the thread is worth it.

Fishermen helping fishermen. This is what my thread is all about.

That my friend is the true value of the site.........9,000+ inquiring minds want to know......

[worldcat lemon]

I have to give Kudos to sf.com for having the balls to let a guy speak the truth about his boat experience and the way he was treated by the manufacturer and dealer. Went to bloodydecks.com and posted a thread to tell my story and to try and find the other owners of the diesel models and poor little World Cat cried to the moderators, who not only locked the thread, but even changed the name of my thread. Those moderators in my opinion are gutless.

Then the WC dealer in San Diego, who sold my boat as a demo, had the integrity to tell me that WC knew these diesel boats were a problem, and knew my boat sucked in water and obviously did nothing about it. He said my boat was hull #2, of 9 (or 10), and in around 30 days after it was sold the guy brought it back and wanted his money back because the engine had ingested water!!. Nobody will confirm how many were made. This dealer completely verified my story. Of course Mike at BD.com told me to F---off and blocked my access to BD.com. Could it be WC threatened to pull their advertising dollars if they didn't kill my thread? Had almost 3,000 hits in 4 days, maybe Andrew Brown didn't like the truth coming out?

BD's probably deleted my whole thread. I think fishing forums should not be controlled by the advertisers, as this results in corrupted information being shared by boat owners.

Again, my hat is off to sportfishermen.com!!!!!

[worldcat lemon]

I wanted to believe that the surveyor who contacted me through e-mail, after I spoke to Lisa Alley at TCM, was actually independent. Could there could be some level of impropriety between my surveyor, Bernie Szetela, and TCM? Could it be that when surveyors survey boats for a potential sale that the surveyor somehow turns a blind eye to problems in order to help sales go through, knowing that this guarantees future surveys at the marina? Or is it just an example of incompetence when the surveyor looks at the rusted, corrosion laden engine, hidden by new paint, and fails to tell they guy who paid him about the 20 years worth of corrosion on a 4 year old engine?

If I had to do it over again I would NEVER, EVER, EVER use a surveyor who does local surveys. For you potential boat buyers it is worth it to you to fly or drive your own surveyor to inspect the boat instead of using a local surveyor. It may cost you a few thousand to fly him across country, if need be, but in the long run you will be way better off. Learn from my mistakes.

I would never use Bernie Szetela on another boat survey, because in my opinion he cost me $30k plus more stress and lost sleep than I care to remember.

Boat buyers heed my advice and learn from my mistake.

[giantfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IU1bzZheWk

[WAHOONBOX]

LEMONHEAD....

YOU HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO DO YOUR RANT HERE ON SFC IN THIS ....IN MY OPINION ....THIS PATHETIC THREAD


AND NOW I SEE YOU ARE SPREADING YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS AND BASHINGS INTO OTHER FORUMS ON SPORTFISHERMEN DOT COM

ANY CHANCE YOU COULD CONFINE YOUR BULLSHIT TO THIS ONE STUPID THREAD OF YOURS INSTEAD OF CONTAMINATING OTHER FORUMS?

[Robja]

I'm with ya BOX. I thought this thread would finally go away since he sold the boat but it keeps coming back. Its time to lock this thread from future posts.

[WAHOONBOX]

I WANT TO DO AN INTERVIEW WITH THE NEW OWNER OF LEMONHEADS BOAT THAT HE PAWNED OFF


ANYONE NOW HOW I CAN GET IN TOUGH WITH HIM?

I BET HE HAS A FEW WORDS TO GIVE LEMONHEAD

[frankypettolina]

I take some offense to Mr. Lemon's most recent comments about never using a local surveyor- I am sorry you had a bad experience with the surveyor, but to lump us all together is not fair.

I survey boats up and down the east coast, but a majority of the boats i do are right in my hometown- I do the same job whether it is for a buyer from Ohio or a buyer from MD, whether the broker is a guy like Jimmy Fields who i have known since i was 14 years old or a Broker from FL that I have never met before. The boat tells the story, not how i feel about the buyer or the broker. And let me tell you this good Brokers (like Jimmy for example) don't hold it against a surveyor for doing their job. like I said, the boat tells the story- I just put it on paper.

You need to check the surveyor's credentials, talk to him/her directly, ask for references and then make your decision on whether or not to use them.

As much as people want to see this thread die, i am curious, what did you ask the surveyor before you hired him? It is sad, but a majority of people who call me only want to know what my rate is- I make it a point to tell them what I do before i ever mention my price.

[WAHOONBOX]

I take some offense to Mr. Lemon's most recent comments about never using a local surveyor- I am sorry you had a bad experience with the surveyor, but to lump us all together is not fair.

I survey boats up and down the east coast, but a majority of the boats i do are right in my hometown- I do the same job whether it is for a buyer from Ohio or a buyer from MD, whether the broker is a guy like Jimmy Fields who i have known since i was 14 years old or a Broker from FL that I have never met before. The boat tells the story, not how i feel about the buyer or the broker. And let me tell you this good Brokers (like Jimmy for example) don't hold it against a surveyor for doing their job. like I said, the boat tells the story- I just put it on paper.

You need to check the surveyor's credentials, talk to him/her directly, ask for references and then make your decision on whether or not to use them.

As much as people want to see this thread die, i am curious, what did you ask the surveyor before you hired him? It is sad, but a majority of people who call me only want to know what my rate is- I make it a point to tell them what I do before i ever mention my price.

MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T LET THIS ONE DIE....MAYBE IT'S TIME TO FIGHT BACK . EYE FOR AN EYE HERE.


FRANKY YOU HIT THIS ONE SQUARE ON DA HEAD.