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    Are Republicans DONE and gone soon?

    There are no Republicans among the present 41 members of the Congressional Black Caucus, or among the 24 members of the Hispanic Caucus -- an absence that reflects the party's woeful performance among minority voters in recent elections and may threaten its very existence.

    Consider the historic campaign of 2008, when President Barack Obama bested John McCain by a solid margin of 7.2 percentage points. According to the authoritative exit polls, the vast majority of voters (74 percent) identified themselves as "white," and McCain won a landslide among this segment of the electorate, thrashing Obama by a resounding 12 points (55 percent to 43 percent). This was the same margin that George W. Bush commanded among white voters in his 2000 victory over Al Gore. In fact, because of the larger electorate, McCain's losing effort actually drew 9.5 million more votes overall than Bush's victorious campaign of eight years before.

    Why, then, did Bush win the White House while McCain suffered humiliating defeat? The answer is that in eight years the nonwhite portion of electorate soared -- from 19 percent of voters to 26 percent of voters. Among these voters, Obama won by a 4-to-1 margin -- easily wiping out McCain's big advantage among white voters.

    For two reasons, these numbers command close attention for anyone concerned about the Republican future.

    First, there is no chance that white voters will ever again comprise 74 percent of the electorate.


    Second, it would be hard for any Republican to improve significantly on McCain's hefty 12-point margin among whites, which means that without an improved showing among Hispanics, blacks and Asians, GOP contenders will lose every time.

    The math here is brutal and eye-opening. If Obama in 2012 wins the same percentage of the combined black, Asian and Hispanic vote that he won in 2008 (82 percent), then in order to beat him the GOP candidate would need to win an unimaginable 65 percent of all white voters -- whose numbers include such stalwart Democratic constituencies as gays, atheists, Jews and union members.

    The 65 percent threshold represents a far higher percentage than Ronald Reagan won in his landslide against Jimmy Carter in 1980, or even his history-making 49-state re-election-sweep against Walter Mondale in '84.


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    And yet the Republicans still haven't gotten on the illegal immigration issue. Any theories as to why they seem bent on comitting political suicide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zummie View Post
    There are no Republicans among the present 41 members of the Congressional Black Caucus, or among the 24 members of the Hispanic Caucus -- an absence that reflects the party's woeful performance among minority voters in recent elections and may threaten its very existence.

    Consider the historic campaign of 2008, when President Barack Obama bested John McCain by a solid margin of 7.2 percentage points. According to the authoritative exit polls, the vast majority of voters (74 percent) identified themselves as "white," and McCain won a landslide among this segment of the electorate, thrashing Obama by a resounding 12 points (55 percent to 43 percent). This was the same margin that George W. Bush commanded among white voters in his 2000 victory over Al Gore. In fact, because of the larger electorate, McCain's losing effort actually drew 9.5 million more votes overall than Bush's victorious campaign of eight years before.

    Why, then, did Bush win the White House while McCain suffered humiliating defeat? The answer is that in eight years the nonwhite portion of electorate soared -- from 19 percent of voters to 26 percent of voters. Among these voters, Obama won by a 4-to-1 margin -- easily wiping out McCain's big advantage among white voters.

    For two reasons, these numbers command close attention for anyone concerned about the Republican future.

    First, there is no chance that white voters will ever again comprise 74 percent of the electorate.


    Second, it would be hard for any Republican to improve significantly on McCain's hefty 12-point margin among whites, which means that without an improved showing among Hispanics, blacks and Asians, GOP contenders will lose every time.

    The math here is brutal and eye-opening. If Obama in 2012 wins the same percentage of the combined black, Asian and Hispanic vote that he won in 2008 (82 percent), then in order to beat him the GOP candidate would need to win an unimaginable 65 percent of all white voters -- whose numbers include such stalwart Democratic constituencies as gays, atheists, Jews and union members.

    The 65 percent threshold represents a far higher percentage than Ronald Reagan won in his landslide against Jimmy Carter in 1980, or even his history-making 49-state re-election-sweep against Walter Mondale in '84.


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    Gee because all of the Minority run countries just do so well dont they? Why dont you go back to your island?

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    No offense Zummie, but your math is like a 7th grade chemestry set--- you mix a bunch of stuff up and all that come out in the end is a bunch of gray mess.
    There is no doubt that the minority block is a growing and powerfull force, and no doubt that the Republican Party knows it has a big problem in that it has a "problem" attracting minority voters. This is not in dispute, but I wouldn't go so far as attempting to concockt a doom and gloom cocktail for the Republican party's future. Right or wrong, the fact is there is a silent majority that will swing party votes based on issues and candidates--- whether they be white, black brown or green.
    In short, I wouldn't put the lid on the Republican party coffin just quite yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zummie View Post
    There are no Republicans among the present 41 members of the Congressional Black Caucus, or among the 24 members of the Hispanic Caucus -- an absence that reflects the party's woeful performance among minority voters in recent elections and may threaten its very existence.

    Consider the historic campaign of 2008, when President Barack Obama bested John McCain by a solid margin of 7.2 percentage points. According to the authoritative exit polls, the vast majority of voters (74 percent) identified themselves as "white," and McCain won a landslide among this segment of the electorate, thrashing Obama by a resounding 12 points (55 percent to 43 percent). This was the same margin that George W. Bush commanded among white voters in his 2000 victory over Al Gore. In fact, because of the larger electorate, McCain's losing effort actually drew 9.5 million more votes overall than Bush's victorious campaign of eight years before.

    Why, then, did Bush win the White House while McCain suffered humiliating defeat? The answer is that in eight years the nonwhite portion of electorate soared -- from 19 percent of voters to 26 percent of voters. Among these voters, Obama won by a 4-to-1 margin -- easily wiping out McCain's big advantage among white voters.

    For two reasons, these numbers command close attention for anyone concerned about the Republican future.

    First, there is no chance that white voters will ever again comprise 74 percent of the electorate.


    Second, it would be hard for any Republican to improve significantly on McCain's hefty 12-point margin among whites, which means that without an improved showing among Hispanics, blacks and Asians, GOP contenders will lose every time.

    The math here is brutal and eye-opening. If Obama in 2012 wins the same percentage of the combined black, Asian and Hispanic vote that he won in 2008 (82 percent), then in order to beat him the GOP candidate would need to win an unimaginable 65 percent of all white voters -- whose numbers include such stalwart Democratic constituencies as gays, atheists, Jews and union members.

    The 65 percent threshold represents a far higher percentage than Ronald Reagan won in his landslide against Jimmy Carter in 1980, or even his history-making 49-state re-election-sweep against Walter Mondale in '84.


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    are you a minority yourself, and feel that you are opressed, or do you feel a sense of guilt because you are white?

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    As a Libertarian I do not have a dog in the Democrat/Republican hunt. I do however see that the country is becoming less and less Eurocentric and for the life of me I can't figure out why the Republicans are not looking to bring Asians, African Americans as well as Latinos on board.
    One example is California which is no longer a white majority state but remains a white plurality state. I don't understand their (the Republicans) strategies, if any.

    As a Libertarian and a realist I know I am tilting at windmills. I think if I was a Republican I would ask the party leadership to review their goals in light of the inevitable numbers which are mounting. If the Republicans wish to remain a viable national party 20 years from now, I feel they must tack away from some of their positions.

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    The problem is,

    We have made politics way too important. No matter who they are they say off to Washington they go to do the hard work necessary. I say I for one can live without any politics. Plus, I dont care anymore. Politics and taxes have become way too important. If all this money is doing any good, why is anyone complaining? If I had an uncle sam handing me money the way uncle sam hands it out, I sure would be happy.

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