Quotes that terrorize insurgents...

[Captain Michael Buffington]

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Quoting Cesare Beccaria)

The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.

No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.

To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.

I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. (Back then!)

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.

The god who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.

And the day will come, when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His Father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva, in the brain of Jupiter.

In matters of style, swim with the current;
In matters of principle, stand like a rock.

What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.

The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society.

When wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality.

Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.

The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.

Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.

It is strangely absurd to suppose that a million of human beings, collected together, are not under the same moral laws which bind each of them separately.

Liberty is the great parent of science and of virtue; and a nation will be great in both in proportion as it is free.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

I have sworn on the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others.

To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

In a government bottomed on the will of all, the...liberty of every individual citizen becomes interesting to all.

I’m a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it.

Say nothing of my religion. It is known to God and myself alone. Its evidence before the world is to be sought in my life: if it has been honest and dutiful to society the religion which has regulated it cannot be a bad one.

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

Most bad government has grown out of too much government.

Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.

The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.

A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.

I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.

Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others?

A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.

The right of self-government does not comprehend the government of others.

An elective despotism was not the government we fought for.

History, in general, only informs us what bad government is.

If there is one principle more deeply rooted in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest.

It is better to tolerate that rare instance of a parent’s refusing to let his child be educated, than to shock the common feelings by a forcible transportation and education of the infant against the will of his father.

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.

The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.

I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.

In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to Liberty.



Thomas Jefferson

[SKULL & BONES]

Spirituality is one's guidestone.

Religion is, has and will always be the root of all thing evil.

[longfisher]

"The President of the United States is an African-American."

LF

[joeksr]

Spirituality is one's guidestone.

Nah. Truth is ones Guidestone.

Religion is, has and will always be the root of all thing evil.

Yep, amazing what people will do in the name of religion.

[SKULL & BONES]

Yep, amazing what people will do in the name of religion.

Both are true statements Mr Jokester

[longfisher]

with S&B and Jokester.

With all my heart and soul, I wish religion never existed. It's been the bane of human existence since pre-history.

There was a time that I thought religion might one day die out. But it seems resurgent. Then again, perhaps with all the war and strife religion causes religion will, indeed, die out... while taking all the rest of us with it due to the wars and strife it causes.

It's a pity that with religion's resurgence our politicians, some of the most ungodly con artists on earth, must masquerade as religionists. Else, they couldn't get elected at all.

So, in a way, the religious among us are responsible for electing the most motly collection of fantastics and / or con men ever assembled on these shores...the U.S. Congress. Those in Congress must either believe in the absolute absurdities of religion or con the voters into believing that they do.

Thanks be to God.

LF

[longfisher]

Yep, amazing what people will do in the name of religion.

If one can be taught to believe in heavenly absurdities one can be easily coerced into committing earthly atrocities.

LF

[joeksr]

If one can be taught to believe in heavenly absurdities one can be easily coerced into committing earthly atrocities.

LF

Makes me wonder why in another thread you posted that strapping a bomb on yourself in the name of religion is courageous.
Seems to me saying NO, that isn't right would be courageous.

[longfisher]

Makes me wonder why in another thread you posted that strapping a bomb on yourself in the name of religion is courageous.
Seems to me saying NO, that isn't right would be courageous.

Although I agree with the sentiment of what you say, avoiding conflict is often the most difficult thing to do ever, I do wonder if the Islamists with occupiers in their countries and who resist occupation, including by means of suicide bombers, do so out of religion as you suggest.

The most populous Islamic country in the world is Indonesia with India being close behind. But I don't hear of them carrying out suicide attacks on anyone. Maybe it's because they don't have a reason to do so.

Maybe the courageous in the Middle East and Afghanistan become suicide bombers out of partriotism because their country was invaded and occupied in the first place. And, maybe they do so also because of revenge for those many killed (murdered, really) at the hands of the invaders and occupiers. And, maybe they do it out of frustration because they're being exterminated like vermin when they are, in fact, plainly human.

Maybe it would be courageous for people like you and me Jokester to just say no to invading countries under false pretenses, huh? Think Iraq. I did. Did you?

Maybe it would also be courageous for you and I to say that we got OBL and crushed the Taliban for all reasonable purposes some time ago so let's say No for staying forever. The most recent estimates of when we leave is 2024. Yep, with a 24, not a 14. I did say these courageous things and do so still. Did and do you?

Maybe it would be courageous for you and me to say NO to illegal and counterproductive violations of the sovereignty of other countries with our remote-controled drones, spooks and military; such countries as Somalia, Yemen, Sudan, Libya, etc. I for one recognize a tactic that cannot prove strategically successful like drones and spooks but can result in substantial blowback like 09/11. I did and do say No to such folly. Did and do you?

Maybe you and I would be courageous when we speak of Zionism and say NO for them stealing peoples lands, destroying their homes and orchards, imprisoning them in open air concentration camps and ethnically clieansing them, huh? I did say No and do so still, routinely. Do you?

Remember, Jokestr, courage is the foundational virtue on which all other virtues are built. Can you join with me and say No to both the suicide bombers and to those nations and states who undertake illegal and counterproductive actions which seem to induce suicide bombings.

I hope so. Because without being a hypocrite you can't condemn one without condemning the other.

LF

[joeksr]

longfisher
Although I agree with the sentiment of what you say, avoiding conflict is often the most difficult thing to do ever, I do wonder if the Islamists with occupiers in their countries and who resist occupation, including by means of suicide bombers, do so out of religion as you suggest.

The most populous Islamic country in the world is Indonesia with India being close behind. But I don't hear of them carrying out suicide attacks on anyone. Maybe it's because they don't have a reason to do so.

Maybe the courageous in the Middle East and Afghanistan become suicide bombers out of partriotism because their country was invaded and occupied in the first place. And, maybe they do so also because of revenge for those many killed (murdered, really) at the hands of the invaders and occupiers. And, maybe they do it out of frustration because they're being exterminated like vermin when they are, in fact, plainly human.

I HAVE TO ADMIT.
NEVER, NOT FOR ONE MINUTE, DID I EVER THINK STRAPPING A BOMB TO YOURSELF AND/OR YOUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND BLOWING UP CIVILIANS OR FLYING A PLANE INTO OFFICE BUILDINGS WAS HEROIC.
FANATICAL, YES.
YOU DO. YOUR OPINION AND YOU ARE ENTITLED TO IT.
I THINK THEY ARE A BUNCH OF SOFT HEADED TERRORISTS BEING LED BY
RELIGIOUS LEADERS WHO HAVE BENT THE RULES TO GET AND MAINTAIN WHAT LITTLE POWER THEY CAN BY CONVINCING THE WEAK MINDED THAT ITS HOW YOU GET TO HEAVEN.

Maybe it would be courageous for people like you and me Jokester to just say no to invading countries under false pretenses, huh? Think Iraq. I did. Did you?

Maybe it would also be courageous for you and I to say that we got OBL and crushed the Taliban for all reasonable purposes some time ago so let's say No for staying forever. The most recent estimates of when we leave is 2024. Yep, with a 24, not a 14. I did say these courageous things and do so still. Did and do you?

Maybe it would be courageous for you and me to say NO to illegal and counterproductive violations of the sovereignty of other countries with our remote-controled drones, spooks and military; such countries as Somalia, Yemen, Sudan, Libya, etc. I for one recognize a tactic that cannot prove strategically successful like drones and spooks but can result in substantial blowback like 09/11. I did and do say No to such folly. Did and do you?

Maybe you and I would be courageous when we speak of Zionism and say NO for them stealing peoples lands, destroying their homes and orchards, imprisoning them in open air concentration camps and ethnically clieansing them, huh? I did say No and do so still, routinely. Do you?

Remember, Jokestr, courage is the foundational virtue on which all other virtues are built. Can you join with me and say No to both the suicide bombers and to those nations and states who undertake illegal and counterproductive actions which seem to induce suicide bombings.

I hope so. Because without being a hypocrite you can't condemn one without condemning the other.

AS FOR THE REST. I DONT THINK IM GOING TO SAY NO TO HELPING THE REST OF THE WORLD BE FREE. IRAQ? I DONT THINK WE INVADED UNDER FALSE PRETENSES. IT SUCKS THAT WE ARE STILL THERE BUT DONT START NOTHIN YOU AINT GONNA FINISH. ANYONE THAT THINKS TAKING OUT A BAD GUY IS THE END IS AN IDIOT. ANOTHER STEPS UP. IF YOU THINK KEEPING AN EYE ON THOSE THAT WANT US DEAD WITH EVERY PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY AT OUR DISPOSAL LEADS THEM TO ATTACK US AND THAT MAKES IT OUR FAULT. I CAN ONLY SAY FCK EM. THEY ARE GOING TO ATTACK US ANYWAY.
AND YES I CAN CONDEMN TERRORIST WITHOUT CONDEMNING MY COUNTRY BECAUSE THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE TO ME BETWEEN BLOWING UP INNOCENTS IN THE NAME OF RELIGION AND WATCHING YOUR BACK.
FINALLY, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE TRUTH IS REGARDING THESE ACTIONS.
ONLY WHAT YOU READ IN THE MEDIA.
DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD HELP THOSE IN THE REST OF THE WORLD BE FREE ?
SHOULD WE BURY OUR HEADS IN THE SAND UNTIL WE ARE THE ONLY FREE NATION LEFT AND HAVE TO FACE EVERYONE ELSE ?
CAREFULL NOW. IF WE HELP WE MAY BE THERE FOR A WHILE.