Pt boats

g_max_2003@hotmail.com · 10-08-2009, 04:45 PM

does anybody else agree with me that the pt boats of WWII were the basis of modern high speed convertible sportfisherman . here is a link to an article with some pictures on boattest.com
http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3207

SkirtChaser32' · 10-08-2009, 04:55 PM

interesting post..I definitely see some similarities. They didn't flare the bows enough back then though!

g_max_2003@hotmail.com · 10-08-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SkirtChaser32'

interesting post..I definitely see some similarities. They didn't flare the bows enough back then though!

I guess the carolina flare took a few decades to evolve. sweet looking boats thou i could just see one of those hulls with a flybridge and tower

Deep C · 10-08-2009, 06:43 PM

The PT after WW2 took on a lot of new faces... Some became luxury yachts others took up roles as party fishing boats... Rybovitch utilized the mahogany approach along with others... So yes there was inspiration conceived from the gallant gofasts of yesteryear...

canyongear · 10-08-2009, 07:15 PM

Huckins built em' i think

Reel Fanatic · 10-08-2009, 10:49 PM

Here is all you need to know:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG8x8C5I8a0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8tQP3s9DIQ

clt_capt · 10-08-2009, 11:00 PM

Unfortunately a very large percentage were burned to their keels so that they wouldn't be used when we pulled out...

Truly a shame.

Patudo · 10-09-2009, 07:36 AM

I think the PT boats did take the design of high speed planing hulls forward, and the fact that so many were made must have given a lot of people exposure to boat building techniques that were used in civilian life after the war. If only it were possible to build a triple mahogany boat as cheaply nowadays!

I wonder how deep the vee of those PT boats was. The impression I get is that it probably wasn't as deep as a modern deep vee.

Rybovich and Merritt didn't have much bow flare either. The PT boats didn't need much because the crew were in the wheelhouse rather than in an open bridge and dryness wasn't a consideration. Excessive flare might have upset their high speed aerodynamics anyway.

On our side of the Atlantic our MTBs (Motor Torpedo Boats) followed a similar route in terms of design (I think a British design was one of the contenders for the US PT boat contract) but the design considered by most to be the best of their class, the German E-boat was different. These things were narrower semi displacement hulls built to run through North Sea conditions. Interestingly the Germans built them on steel frames (there are some references to them being steel hulled but I think this is incorrect). They were also diesel powered, which I'm sure more than a few Krauts were thankful for during the war. No one seems to use this hull form in sportfishing boats, maybe because a beamier boat is preferred, but the Nelson company in the UK produced several work boats along similar lines. I have fished on one that had been rebuilt as a sportfisher and like it very much. That narrow hull cuts through rough water like a knife.

The amount of power they crammed into those boats still amazes me. The E-boats had 3 x 2000 hp Daimler Benz engines and exceeded 40 knots. The PTs and MTBs also had a shedload of horsepower.

ElMar2530 · 10-09-2009, 08:12 AM

I love the history of PT boats, my Dad has an old '41 Packard that reminds my of the engines in those things everytime I hear her run.

I never new of PT658, got to get out to the left to see her.

10-08-2009, 10:49 PM	#6
Reel Fanatic Crab mustard is good Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 712 Credits: 2,538.7 Boat: Grady White 25 Trophy that sits on the hill Home Port: Emerald Isle, NC Best Catch: My lovely wife Occupation: Dental equipment sales and repair	Here is all you need to know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG8x8C5I8a0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8tQP3s9DIQ Last edited by Reel Fanatic; 10-08-2009 at 10:52 PM.

10-09-2009, 07:36 AM	#8
Patudo Sit down Shut up And fish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 476 Credits: 2,223.9	I think the PT boats did take the design of high speed planing hulls forward, and the fact that so many were made must have given a lot of people exposure to boat building techniques that were used in civilian life after the war. If only it were possible to build a triple mahogany boat as cheaply nowadays! I wonder how deep the vee of those PT boats was. The impression I get is that it probably wasn't as deep as a modern deep vee. Rybovich and Merritt didn't have much bow flare either. The PT boats didn't need much because the crew were in the wheelhouse rather than in an open bridge and dryness wasn't a consideration. Excessive flare might have upset their high speed aerodynamics anyway. On our side of the Atlantic our MTBs (Motor Torpedo Boats) followed a similar route in terms of design (I think a British design was one of the contenders for the US PT boat contract) but the design considered by most to be the best of their class, the German E-boat was different. These things were narrower semi displacement hulls built to run through North Sea conditions. Interestingly the Germans built them on steel frames (there are some references to them being steel hulled but I think this is incorrect). They were also diesel powered, which I'm sure more than a few Krauts were thankful for during the war. No one seems to use this hull form in sportfishing boats, maybe because a beamier boat is preferred, but the Nelson company in the UK produced several work boats along similar lines. I have fished on one that had been rebuilt as a sportfisher and like it very much. That narrow hull cuts through rough water like a knife. The amount of power they crammed into those boats still amazes me. The E-boats had 3 x 2000 hp Daimler Benz engines and exceeded 40 knots. The PTs and MTBs also had a shedload of horsepower. Last edited by Patudo; 10-09-2009 at 07:46 AM.

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10-08-2009, 04:55 PM	#2
SkirtChaser32' Stop staring at my Avatar. Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 393 Credits: 1,462.9	interesting post..I definitely see some similarities. They didn't flare the bows enough back then though!

10-08-2009, 06:43 PM	#4
Deep C Master of all things wet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Plywood State Posts: 13,724 Credits: 43,491.9 Boat: Several Home Port: Palm Beach Best Catch: Mrs Deep Occupation: Killin Stuff	The PT after WW2 took on a lot of new faces... Some became luxury yachts others took up roles as party fishing boats... Rybovitch utilized the mahogany approach along with others... So yes there was inspiration conceived from the gallant gofasts of yesteryear...

10-08-2009, 11:00 PM	#7
clt_capt If Ignorance is bliss, Why aren't more people happy? Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Raleigh, MHC Posts: 5,953 Credits: 8,649.7 Boat: Luhrs 36 Home Port: MHC Occupation: Supporting my Tackle habit	Unfortunately a very large percentage were burned to their keels so that they wouldn't be used when we pulled out... Truly a shame.

10-09-2009, 08:12 AM	#9
ElMar2530 Crab mustard is good Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Westbrook, CT Posts: 668 Credits: 2,510.4 Boat: Parker 2530 "El Mar" SeaCraft 20SF 15 Whaler Sport Home Port: Westbrook CT Occupation: High School Shop Teacher	I love the history of PT boats, my Dad has an old '41 Packard that reminds my of the engines in those things everytime I hear her run. I never new of PT658, got to get out to the left to see her.