Pricthetts Open letter to Obama

[Reel Fanatic]

Here's my answer to your hypothetical question...

John McCain is no model for conservatism but he is heads and shoulders a better leader than Obama will ever be.

1) John McCain had made several attempts in previous years to get a handle on the wrong doings of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Rather than put a band-aid on an arterial bleed, I think he probably would have addressed the issue properly. The same assholes who helped develop the mortgage problem are still in place and, unfortunately, ready to go back to doing business as usual once the economy gets back on it's feet.

2) I believe that McCain would have found a private sector solution for propping up or salvaging GM rather than government ownership. Furthermore, he wouldn't have stolen the rights of the bond holders and handed over most of their interests to the UAW.

3) John McCain wouldn't have been proposing that we scrap our entire healthcare system in order to cover a disproportionate number of uninsured/ under insured Americans. You don't junk a perfectly good boat if all that it needs is a a tune-up.

4) John McCain wouldn't be travelling all over the world apologizing for perceived wrong doings on our part that our enemies dislike. That's why they are our enemies to begin with...they don't like us...no matter what we do.

5) John McCain would fight to preserve our "more perfect union" rather than bastardize it to exact retribution against it's current population for the sins of it's forefathers.

6) John McCain has respect for the American people to not run up a deficit of over 3 trillion dollars in his first 6 months of office.

7) John McCain would have had enough sense to know that government spending on government pork does not translate into private sector recovery. If the road in front of your house is freshly paved, will that put money in your pocket to go buy groceries? No, that is unless you work for the government.

8) John McCain would actually listen to those who oppose his views (unfortunately) and have a real dialogue rather than try to crush them and silence them like the current administration is doing with the healthcare debate. The previous administration did the same thing. They never called their critics unpatriotic...we did. And I still say that. Evidently dissent is only unpatriotic when it's against liberals because that's how they are defining it.

[rarhomes]

Here's my answer to your hypothetical question...

John McCain is no model for conservatism but he is heads and shoulders a better leader than Obama will ever be.

1) John McCain had made several attempts in previous years to get a handle on the wrong doings of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Rather than put a band-aid on an arterial bleed, I think he probably would have addressed the issue properly. The same assholes who helped develop the mortgage problem are still in place and, unfortunately, ready to go back to doing business as usual once the economy gets back on it's feet.

2) I believe that McCain would have found a private sector solution for propping up or salvaging GM rather than government ownership. Furthermore, he wouldn't have stolen the rights of the bond holders and handed over most of their interests to the UAW.

3) John McCain wouldn't have been proposing that we scrap our entire healthcare system in order to cover a disproportionate number of uninsured/ under insured Americans. You don't junk a perfectly good boat if all that it needs is a a tune-up.

4) John McCain wouldn't be travelling all over the world apologizing for perceived wrong doings on our part that our enemies dislike. That's why they are our enemies to begin with...they don't like us...no matter what we do.

5) John McCain would fight to preserve our "more perfect union" rather than bastardize it to exact retribution against it's current population for the sins of it's forefathers.

6) John McCain has respect for the American people to not run up a deficit of over 3 trillion dollars in his first 6 months of office.

7) John McCain would have had enough sense to know that government spending on government pork does not translate into private sector recovery. If the road in front of your house is freshly paved, will that put money in your pocket to go buy groceries? No, that is unless you work for the government.

8) John McCain would actually listen to those who oppose his views (unfortunately) and have a real dialogue rather than try to crush them and silence them like the current administration is doing with the healthcare debate. The previous administration did the same thing. They never called their critics unpatriotic...we did. And I still say that. Evidently dissent is only unpatriotic when it's against liberals because that's how they are defining it.

Took in words out of my mouth.

Thanks,

Capt Rick

[N2theBlue]

good points all Reel Fanatic. Good to see we can have intelligent discussion on here, however,

"Evidently dissent is only unpatriotic when it's against liberals because that's how they are defining it. "

I could argue with that one all day long. How many times have people like O'Reilly and Limbaugh called people unpatriotic because they didn't agree with their arch conservative views? That was the standard response during the Bush administration for anybody who dared to criticize or offer a differing opinion. I have to say that the conservatives and republicans were the ones who started that in the current go round and the liberals are just returning the favor.

Lets see if we can continue the discussion, I don't agree with either side or party (think both don't work hard enough to seek a middle ground) and have not done enough research to add much to the discussion so i'll try and play the moderator.

[Reefraft]

Reel... Very well said.

[Reel Fanatic]

N2theBlue-

John McCain would actually listen to those who oppose his views (unfortunately) and have a real dialogue rather than try to crush them and silence them like the current administration is doing with the healthcare debate. The previous administration did the same thing. They never called their critics unpatriotic...we did

As I stated in my post, WE (meaning pro-America regardless of who the president is) are the ones who called the anti-American forces within the Democrat/ Socialist party unpatriotic. I will still call them that and I stand behind that. You don't go around changing your position or views because you like or dislike the occupant of the White House. This isn't the damn Super Bowl and right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of who occupies THE office. This is real life with real consequences that will haunt us or help us for the rest of our lives.

The difference with the previous administration is that they had the character and class to let the political process work. Let the outcome be the outcome. They did not resort to name calling and demarginalizing people who disagreed with them. They would go into the lions den (ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN) and have a dialogue detailing their position and answering very pointed questions with a great deal of detail or there would be hell to pay. Of course there were times when they couldn't reveal certain pieces of information that were sensitive to our efforts in the war on terrorism but even that was met with a great deal of cynicism and skepticism. The current bunch of "leaders" won't even answer simple questions. If asked anything of substance regarding this healthcare issue, they resort to calling the elctorate a bunch of manufactured malcontents and nazi's. Nancy Peloser literally called people who are against this Obamacare nazi's.

Obama has actually requested on his website that Americans provide his administration with the names of anyone spreading "dis-information" about is wonderful healthcare program. I guess it's alright to rat out your neighbor who disagrees with the President on a policy but it's a civil rights travesty for a President (Bush) to ask the American people to be vigilant and keep your eyes open for suspicious and potential terrorist activity and report that to your local law enforcement officials.

Are we supposed to sit back and shut up and just let this crowd destroy our healthcare system? This isn't even about healthcare anyway. This is a power grab and a money grab to prop up social security, medicare, and medicaid. Once this system is in place, there is no limit on what you can be taxed when your very life depends on it- without congressional debate. When was the last time you got a chance to listen to congressional debates on how much you pay for a first class stamp? What? You've never heard or seen such a thing? Hmmm. Why are we supposed to take these people at face value when they admit they haven't read the bill. Hell, Obama spent more time deciding which breed of dog to get his kids than these f#$kers have spent on the healthcare system "scrap and replace".

Do you want someone who is no more qualified than your average DMV worker dictating to you or your loved ones what you can and can't have in terms of medical treatment?

Do you want an "end of life" counselor coming to your door every 5 years beginning at age 65 to help you "cope" with the eventuality that your care is going to be restricted to pain management because actuarial numbers don't support anything else?

Does it make any difference that this Obamacare debacle is only going to bring coverage to an additional 8-10 million people who didn't previously have coverage? (CBO numbers- not mine) Many of the additional people who are going to be covered under this crap aren't even supposed to be here.

I guess I will be on the government's watch list and targeted for IRS audits now.

[Reefraft]

I guess I will be on the government's watch list and targeted for IRS audits now.

Me too!!

[Moe Fishintime]

Unless you are a patriotic White man. Otherwise nothing will come of it.