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    How do you here the truth ?

    Sorry to be bitchy, but I hve 3 friends dying, and I hate to see people try to shit all over the dead.
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    Leave Joe out of this... His gig is low priced heating oil for those that can't afford it and if Chavez is willing to part with some unlike the other oil pigs of the planet, then so be it. Mass is hard enough to live in. Cold and raw is the theme for a very long off season... ever try to sleep or try to rear kids without heat?

    I just got done above describing him as a person. Fisherman first just like any of us on here... No interest in politics any more. Would rather learn how to throw a cast net on ballyhoos.

    Pick on the rest but leave him out of it please...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep C View Post
    Now damnit Hatt...
    Leave Joe out of this... His gig is low priced heating oil for those that can't afford it and if Chavez is willing to part with some unlike the other oil pigs of the planet, then so be it. Mass is hard enough to live in. Cold and raw is the theme for a very long off season... ever try to sleep or try to rear kids without heat?

    I just got done above describing him as a person. Fisherman first just like any of us on here... No interest in politics any more. Would rather learn how to throw a cast net on ballyhoos.

    Pick on the rest but leave him out of it please...
    Deep back the throttles down......i used Joe as an example of an appointee.....his Kennedy name....ok....throttle up no more 6 knot zone

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    My experiment is over,

    Quote Originally Posted by eppefour View Post
    Just remembber Hubris- your money can't buy you class. except for low class
    Now I didnt write this. Maybe I should say, I didnt right this. I finally learned how to copy and paste. I got this as an E-Mail today and simply posted it. But it proves my point........Most are idiots. You dont know how I think, I didnt right this and it doesnt make scents. I simply posted someone else's letter I got, and Im.......... low class. I should be banned again. I like where I live, its the best township in the entire state of Pennsylvania. I live on the best street in the township. I didnt post my opinion, I posted an e-mail I got. Once again, Im not calling anyone names. I still dont understand how the truth could possibly be pathetic...........

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    August 27, 2009 4:00 AM

    Kennedy, Unsentimentally
    By the Editors

    He may have sometimes seemed like a gin-soaked anachronism from The Beautiful and Damned who somehow wandered into 21st-century America, but Edward M. Kennedy is a permanent rebuke to F. Scott Fitzgerald and his assertion that there are no second acts in American lives. Kennedy’s life was a string of second acts: Expelled from Harvard for academic dishonesty, he was readmitted to the good graces of the Ivy League under a gentlemen’s agreement; politically marginalized after leaving Mary Jo Kopechne to die of asphyxiation in his sinking Oldsmobile, he was readmitted to the good graces of the Democratic party under a gentlemen’s agreement of a different sort; frustrated in his desire to follow his brother to the White House, he reinterpreted his relegation to the legislature as a heroic political stand. Senator Kennedy proved to be a political immortal, and no scandal, hypocrisy, or failure of vision could threaten his career. Indeed, even mortality has not ended his influence, and Democrats already are positioning themselves to use his passing as a platform to further one of the worst of his initiatives, a government takeover of the health-care industry.

    As a member of the modern American aristocracy, Senator Kennedy believed that he had a mandate to use his power to do good for the least well-off among us, and that cast of mind is, at its core, admirable. Among the better achievements of his life, Kennedy lent moral support to important civil-rights and voting-rights legislation. Unhappily, he mistook power for wisdom, and he very often left things worse than he had found them. He meddled in Northern Ireland to no good end, contributed mightily to the politicization of the federal courts, sought to regulate and restrict political speech, appeased the Soviets, contributed to the American defeat in Vietnam, and attempted to apply the Vietnam template to Iraq. A child of privilege, he worked energetically to deny school-choice scholarships to poor black children in Washington, D.C. His ideas on taxes, immigration, and social welfare were reliably counterproductive.

    On the issue of health care, long dear to him, Senator Kennedy was a serial fumbler, and much of the maddening modern American health-care bureaucracy, with its welter of HMOs, PPOs, and tangled intersections of the public and the private, has its origins in Kennedy’s legislative imagination. In a much-noted 2001 presentation, Senator Kennedy denounced HMOs as condemning unfortunates “to second-rate care from the doctor who happens to be on the plan’s list.” Unmentioned was the fact that the modern HMO regime was brought into existence by Senator Kennedy, who shaped the 1973 legislation that created it.

    Senator Kennedy was famed for the power of his oratory. Another way of saying that is to note that he was a gifted artist whose medium was slander, and he found his canvases in Supreme Court nominees Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. Powerful a speaker as he was, it is not clear that Senator Kennedy’s rhetoric was powerful enough to sway the hardest hearts, including his own. Consider this: “Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain right which must be recognized — the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old.” A beautiful sentiment, beautifully expressed — and callously ignored when the political winds changed and he felt himself compelled to denounce the “back-alley abortions” that would be necessitated in “Robert Bork’s America.” Like many of the most powerful Democrats — Jesse Jackson and Al Gore come to mind — Senator Kennedy left behind his pro-life convictions when they became a political burden. This is an especially painful failing in Kennedy, whose family has traded on its Catholicism so profitably.

    He was a man of intense personal charisma, and he needed all of it. After a Good Friday drinking bout with the Kennedy boys ended in rape accusations against his nephew, William Kennedy Smith, the man who fancied himself the liberal conscience of the Senate found himself described in the formerly friendly pages of Time magazine as a “Palm Beach boozer, lout, and tabloid grotesque.” He seems to have found a rock in his late-life marriage to his second wife, Victoria. Senator Kennedy promised to reform himself and acknowledged that, “I am painfully aware that the criticism directed at me in recent months involves far more than disagreements with my positions. . . . I recognize my own shortcomings, and the faults in the conduct of my private life. I realize that I alone am responsible for them, and I am the one who must confront them.”

    His brother, President Kennedy, became a national icon because his untimely death invited the question of what he might have been. Senator Kennedy, much longer lived, also invites the question of what he might have been. Driven to do good, he could not, because he was hostage to his own defects, personal and ideological. His best impulses deserve to survive him; his worst ideas and legislative agenda do not. RIP Edward M. Kennedy, 1932–2009: May he encounter the divine mercy that both the greatest and the least of us will require at the end.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    -D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Sikorski View Post
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    August 27, 2009 4:00 AM

    Kennedy, Unsentimentally
    By the Editors

    He may have sometimes seemed like a gin-soaked anachronism from The Beautiful and Damned who somehow wandered into 21st-century America, but Edward M. Kennedy is a permanent rebuke to F. Scott Fitzgerald and his assertion that there are no second acts in American lives. Kennedy’s life was a string of second acts: Expelled from Harvard for academic dishonesty, he was readmitted to the good graces of the Ivy League under a gentlemen’s agreement; politically marginalized after leaving Mary Jo Kopechne to die of asphyxiation in his sinking Oldsmobile, he was readmitted to the good graces of the Democratic party under a gentlemen’s agreement of a different sort; frustrated in his desire to follow his brother to the White House, he reinterpreted his relegation to the legislature as a heroic political stand. Senator Kennedy proved to be a political immortal, and no scandal, hypocrisy, or failure of vision could threaten his career. Indeed, even mortality has not ended his influence, and Democrats already are positioning themselves to use his passing as a platform to further one of the worst of his initiatives, a government takeover of the health-care industry.

    As a member of the modern American aristocracy, Senator Kennedy believed that he had a mandate to use his power to do good for the least well-off among us, and that cast of mind is, at its core, admirable. Among the better achievements of his life, Kennedy lent moral support to important civil-rights and voting-rights legislation. Unhappily, he mistook power for wisdom, and he very often left things worse than he had found them. He meddled in Northern Ireland to no good end, contributed mightily to the politicization of the federal courts, sought to regulate and restrict political speech, appeased the Soviets, contributed to the American defeat in Vietnam, and attempted to apply the Vietnam template to Iraq. A child of privilege, he worked energetically to deny school-choice scholarships to poor black children in Washington, D.C. His ideas on taxes, immigration, and social welfare were reliably counterproductive.

    On the issue of health care, long dear to him, Senator Kennedy was a serial fumbler, and much of the maddening modern American health-care bureaucracy, with its welter of HMOs, PPOs, and tangled intersections of the public and the private, has its origins in Kennedy’s legislative imagination. In a much-noted 2001 presentation, Senator Kennedy denounced HMOs as condemning unfortunates “to second-rate care from the doctor who happens to be on the plan’s list.” Unmentioned was the fact that the modern HMO regime was brought into existence by Senator Kennedy, who shaped the 1973 legislation that created it.

    Senator Kennedy was famed for the power of his oratory. Another way of saying that is to note that he was a gifted artist whose medium was slander, and he found his canvases in Supreme Court nominees Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. Powerful a speaker as he was, it is not clear that Senator Kennedy’s rhetoric was powerful enough to sway the hardest hearts, including his own. Consider this: “Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain right which must be recognized — the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old.” A beautiful sentiment, beautifully expressed — and callously ignored when the political winds changed and he felt himself compelled to denounce the “back-alley abortions” that would be necessitated in “Robert Bork’s America.” Like many of the most powerful Democrats — Jesse Jackson and Al Gore come to mind — Senator Kennedy left behind his pro-life convictions when they became a political burden. This is an especially painful failing in Kennedy, whose family has traded on its Catholicism so profitably.

    He was a man of intense personal charisma, and he needed all of it. After a Good Friday drinking bout with the Kennedy boys ended in rape accusations against his nephew, William Kennedy Smith, the man who fancied himself the liberal conscience of the Senate found himself described in the formerly friendly pages of Time magazine as a “Palm Beach boozer, lout, and tabloid grotesque.” He seems to have found a rock in his late-life marriage to his second wife, Victoria. Senator Kennedy promised to reform himself and acknowledged that, “I am painfully aware that the criticism directed at me in recent months involves far more than disagreements with my positions. . . . I recognize my own shortcomings, and the faults in the conduct of my private life. I realize that I alone am responsible for them, and I am the one who must confront them.”

    His brother, President Kennedy, became a national icon because his untimely death invited the question of what he might have been. Senator Kennedy, much longer lived, also invites the question of what he might have been. Driven to do good, he could not, because he was hostage to his own defects, personal and ideological. His best impulses deserve to survive him; his worst ideas and legislative agenda do not. RIP Edward M. Kennedy, 1932–2009: May he encounter the divine mercy that both the greatest and the least of us will require at the end.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    -D
    For the record, I agree. The truth is never pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Sikorski View Post
    It absolutely amazes me that a large portion of this country holds Kennedy in high regard. He was a womanizing drunk elitist that claimed to help the little guy, but nearly EVERYTHING he supported in DC has ended up hurting the little guy.

    He was a scumbag and a symbol of the wrong direction for this country.

    -D
    Damn Dave i thought you were talking about the half breed ******* in the oval office, well he might be a kennedy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TROPHY SPORTFISHING View Post
    Damn Dave i thought you were talking about the half breed ******* in the oval office, well he might be a kennedy too.
    Rumor has it he's the newest Kennedy brother. The saga continues

    -D

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    He's dead. How is he going to hurt you now ? You have a public profile on here. How would your family like hearing someone call you an asshole after you die. I would either say nothing about you or would say something like : He was a good guy and a great fishermen. He'll be missed" even though none I don't necessarily believe it is true
    Eppefour is right, The old shit is dead and can do no more harm to our country. We should actually be mourning for Sen. Christopher Dodd who has lost his best drinkin' buddy and now has no one to do the waitress sandwich with at happy hour.

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    Talking Alex "Hubris" Kennedy

    hmmmm is Hubris gonna move to Massachusetts...declare residency...so he can be Teddys replacement.....

    knowing Hubris this thread may be a jumpstart for his campaign.....first stop a Senate seat in Mass. then off to DC.....

    can only imagine his staffers.....LMAO

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