Not Looking To Start A Fight Here But,

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From AP News;
His parents have lamented police for their actions Wednesday, saying they could have taken non-lethal action. But there was broad agreement among law enforcement experts: If a suspect raises a weapon and refuses to put it down, officers are justified in shooting to kill.


Brownsville interim Police Chief Orlando Rodriguez defended his officers, saying the boy pointed the pellet gun — which was black and resembled a real gun — at police and repeatedly defied their commands to put it on the floor.


Rodriguez said the preliminary autopsy report showed the boy was shot twice in the torso. Family members initially thought he was shot in the back of the head, but that wound turned out to be a cut from a fall.

Longfisher - Yet again you are presenting a half truth. The boy refused repeatedly to put down the pellet gun - While his death is a terrible thing, he should have put down the weapon.

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From AP News;
His parents have lamented police for their actions Wednesday, saying they could have taken non-lethal action. But there was broad agreement among law enforcement experts: If a suspect raises a weapon and refuses to put it down, officers are justified in shooting to kill.


Brownsville interim Police Chief Orlando Rodriguez defended his officers, saying the boy pointed the pellet gun — which was black and resembled a real gun — at police and repeatedly defied their commands to put it on the floor.


Rodriguez said the preliminary autopsy report showed the boy was shot twice in the torso. Family members initially thought he was shot in the back of the head, but that wound turned out to be a cut from a fall.

Longfisher - Yet again you are presenting a half truth. The boy refused repeatedly to put down the pellet gun - While his death is a terrible thing, he should have put down the weapon.

I don't deliberately ever misrepresent the truth. That's what I'd heard read and heard on ABC news here. I can provide you with links if you want it. There's even a video of the Father claiming his kid was shot in the head.

Yep, he should have put down the weapon. But he was scared and immature and probably too stupid to know there was a way out That's where maturity and restraint come in. I think the cops should have waited as they were in full armor and he was just a punk kid way down the main hallway of the school building. I'd have waited were I there. I don't need that crap on my conscience as there's already too much on it.

I've had several ligitimate opportunities to use my handgun in defense of myself or property and found a way to spare the prick's life each time by using simple restraint. And waiting until the last moment to make sure the kid would fire and that the gun he had wasn't a rubber band gun painted black is exactly what I'd have done.

Because I've been in much tighter spots that a fricking 15 year old standing many yards away with a handgun I'm don't easily scare, as the fricking cops seem to do and as many of you seem to do. If you scare you're irrational. If you're irrational you shouldn't be handling guns.

I'm a well-trained infantryman and an expert shot with every weapon I ever handled. That sort of that training doesn't embue one with restraint at all. The wisdom of old age does. I'd have waited.

AND I EXPECT THE COPS TO DO THE SAME BECAUSE OF THE UTTERLY DISPROPORTIONATELY GREAT DIFFERENCE IN BOTH FIREPOWER, AUTHORITY AND ARMOR. It just don't take that much backbone to be restrained and reserved under pressure.

LF

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We saw natural selection at work. A rational mind would have put the "weapon" down when superior "real" firepower was shown. Sorry, just how it work's. Frank

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What would you say is the average age of the gangbanger's, who do the drive by's, drug sale's, rape's, gang murder's,etc...... are these day's? I expect that any cop in any town of size could tell you, simply because they deal with them daily. If you were in Viet Nam like you claim, was not a 12 year old with an AK your equal???? Sorry old boy, but these kid's today are not the one's we were raised with. Remember the day when you could get into a "scrap" with another teenage boy and when one of you had "enough" the other would just let him get up? Today they are carrying "9's" and such. Retaliation mean's shot, if not death.

Sound's to me like the kid's dad oughta been more of a Father, instead of blaming the police for his son's stupid act that lead to his death. You raised your kid's "right" for a reason. Was that something you learned in Baylor? Nope, it was plain old common sense and a dedication to your committment as a Father.


Remind's me of a case we had here last year. The police caught some teenager's (all had long rap sheet's) breaking into and stealing from yacht's in the area. One of the perp's decided to jump into the river and get away. Problem was he didn't know how to swim. His mother was front faced on the local new's blaming the cop's for him jumping overboard. Wasn't her fault she had raised a thug. As a side note, the day her darling committed suicide, he was supposed to appear in court on un-related theft charges. Sorry, sound's like natural selection at work once again. Frank

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What would you say is the average age of the gangbanger's, who do the drive by's, drug sale's, rape's, gang murder's,etc...... are these day's? I expect that any cop in any town of size could tell you, simply because they deal with them daily. If you were in Viet Nam like you claim, was not a 12 year old with an AK your equal???? Sorry old boy, but these kid's today are not the one's we were raised with. Remember the day when you could get into a "scrap" with another teenage boy and when one of you had "enough" the other would just let him get up? Today they are carrying "9's" and such. Retaliation mean's shot, if not death.

Sound's to me like the kid's dad oughta been more of a Father, instead of blaming the police for his son's stupid act that lead to his death. You raised your kid's "right" for a reason. Was that something you learned in Baylor? Nope, it was plain old common sense and a dedication to your committment as a Father.


Remind's me of a case we had here last year. The police caught some teenager's (all had long rap sheet's) breaking into and stealing from yacht's in the area. One of the perp's decided to jump into the river and get away. Problem was he didn't know how to swim. His mother was front faced on the local new's blaming the cop's for him jumping overboard. Wasn't her fault she had raised a thug. As a side note, the day her darling committed suicide, he was supposed to appear in court on un-related theft charges. Sorry, sound's like natural selection at work once again. Frank

Every needless death is a tradgedy and a loss for humanity. That needless death of a child is even more so.

You're easily the most obstinately compassionless person I've ever known, Frank. But you're in good company here.

LF

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I am in no why happy with the kid getting killed, or the pain that his family obviously is going through. There are (I'm sure) alot of point's that finger wagging could be used.

Honestly, when are we as a Country are going to admit (and then be willing to change) that the way we are raising (or lack there of) our kid's isn't working? Most of us can remember the time that we feared our Father's more than any police officer. We could go to our Father's and ask for advice, admit we made mistake's, knew we were loved (no need for gang's), wanted more than anything to make our parent's proud of us, on and on................ We have allowed the "Gov't", "system", kid services, etc.......... to tell us what was best for our children. Guess what, they were and are WRONG. These are OUR kid's, start being the parent's WE should be. WE ALL know right from wrong, but just CHOOSE to turn our head's and hope someone else will take care of the problem. It ain't gonna happen for the most part, it generally just get's worse. Bar none, the most important job any of us has while on this Earth, is to be the PARENT's our kid's need. Frank

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I for one would honestly have to agree with you. I have heard that same type language pointed at me for many, many year's. I often wonder what it would be like to see the world in color, instead of my black and white view. As I have told you before, "you see thing's for what they could be, I see them as they are". Maybe it come's from service year's spent dealing with some of the cruelest, non-human, no regard for life asshole's this world has to offer. Could thing's have been different, most certainly yes, but THEY made the choice's that brought them to that status. I have been around and trained dog's (the breed you have now mostly) and quickly learned, if it was an unstable dog, it was an unstable dog, no matter how pretty it was. Some thing's you cannot not change late in the game, you can only deal with them. I can say that I kinda envy folk's that can see thing's as you do, but this man has been in the middle of a dog fight one too many time's to see it that way. Guess we are all wired differently. Frank