NJ Fishing License

[apmaurosr]

You've all heard about the required registry for salt water angling. There will be a lot of information and developments during the upcoming months. There's a way you can keep up with the thoughts of New Jersey's own fishing community by joining the NJOA email action alert. The New Jersey Outdoor Alliance council includes: RFA, JCAA, NJBBA, NJCDC, HRFA and more. We are also in contact with officials at DFW.

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[giantfan]

I didn't take a look yet... but it is my understanding that the Fed's delayed the registry for a year to give some states time to come up with their own system.

If NJ doesn't come up with something by next year the Feds will be doing their own thing and charging us $15.00 per person to fish in Saltwater.

If NJ sets in place a license system we won't have to pay the Feds.

In my opinion I would rather pay the state then the Feds in hope that some of that money will be used right here. (artifical reefs, additional enforcement officers, ect.....)

I'm sure who ever gets the fee.... will use it for something else anyway but I think we have a better chance of some productive uses of the funds at the state level.

If Robin Hood (Obama) gets a hold of that money... who knows where it will go?????

[Tunaman40]

Thank you for the info, I just signed up

[OUTCAST1]

A NJ Saltwater License is about NJ Fish and Game getting your money, NOT ABOUT COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL REGS.

The Albano Milman bill to comply with Federal regs and NOT have a NJ Saltwater license was voted out of the Assembly Agriculture and Natural Resources committee in favor, 5-0.

http://www.politickernj.com/thester/...ersey-advances

The State Fish and Game Council opposed the Albano Milman bill, 7-0, in favor of a NJ Saltwater license, for the express purpose of getting the Division more money, instead of simply compying with Federal regs.

http://www.nj.gov/dep/fgw/pdf/2008/m...gc11-12-08.pdf



Tough to get more clear-cut than that. The NJ Saltwater License is NOT about complying with Federal regs.

[giantfan]

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but after reading all that mumbojumbo... this is what I take out of it.

Unless NJ can fight the Feds about doing the saltwater registry without a fee... and win.. the Fed will charge a fee for this.

If NJ does go with a saltwater license we will be in compliance with the Fed regs and will not have to pay the Fed.

They can say it's for whatever they want but I would still rather pay my fee to the State then the Fed.

If this fee goes to help our state enforce laws and put something back into the sport I am all for it. I know we get charged for every little thing that we do here in our great state... but it is a very small amount of money compaired to what most of us spend on just fuel alone.

Like I said, I may be reading this wrong but thats what I take out of it.

[OUTCAST1]

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but after reading all that mumbojumbo... this is what I take out of it.

Unless NJ can fight the Feds about doing the saltwater registry without a fee... and win.. the Fed will charge a fee for this.

If NJ does go with a saltwater license we will be in compliance with the Fed regs and will not have to pay the Fed.

They can say it's for whatever they want but I would still rather pay my fee to the State then the Fed.

If this fee goes to help our state enforce laws and put something back into the sport I am all for it. I know we get charged for every little thing that we do here in our great state... but it is a very small amount of money compaired to what most of us spend on just fuel alone.

Like I said, I may be reading this wrong but thats what I take out of it.

Delaware has a registry called a FIN. There is no cost to register, and the Feds are completely happy with it.

(Independent of that, DE now also has a Saltwater License-they also used the same bogus argument about the "Feds are gonna get ya" to get the license passed. The registry was all the Feds required-NOT A LICENSE.)

Yes, you are reading it wrong.

[giantfan]

I understand that.

If the state does a registry without a fee.... who's going to pay for the cost of running this registry???? All the taxpayers? That's not really fair to all the people that don't fish, is it? Not that fair is really a consideration for the state. I pay a bunch of school taxes and I don't have any kids. Not a problem as I understand how a society works.

The Feds claim that it will cost them aprox $15 per person per year for them to do it, so how can NJ do it for free????

The way I see it plain and simple.... somebody is going to charge us to fish in the salt within the next two years. All I am saying is that if I have to pay a fee.... I would rather pay it to the state then to pay it to the Feds. At least at the state level we have an outside chance that some of the money will be returned to our sport.

Again.... correct me if I'm wrong.

[OUTCAST1]

I understand that.

If the state does a registry without a fee.... who's going to pay for the cost of running this registry???? All the taxpayers? That's not really fair to all the people that don't fish, is it? Not that fair is really a consideration for the state. I pay a bunch of school taxes and I don't have any kids. Not a problem as I understand how a society works.

The Feds claim that it will cost them aprox $15 per person per year for them to do it, so how can NJ do it for free????

The way I see it plain and simple.... somebody is going to charge us to fish in the salt within the next two years. All I am saying is that if I have to pay a fee.... I would rather pay it to the state then to pay it to the Feds. At least at the state level we have an outside chance that some of the money will be returned to our sport.

Again.... correct me if I'm wrong.

It costs Delaware 50 cents/person for FIN registry for the Feds.

Now we all know DE's labor rates are slightly lower than NJ or the Feds. So are the the corruption rates-but DE's working on parity-they should be up to speed soon.

The Feds want the states to do the registry, they admit their numbers are inflated.

NJ estimates $1 million cost to register anglers.

Here's NOAA's estimate of NJ anglers, and it's three years old:

New Jersey.................................. 1.2 million anglers

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/sfa/Partner...umbers2006.pdf

So NJ's cost might be about 75 cents/person.

[giantfan]

It costs Delaware 50 cents/person for FIN registry for the Feds.

Now we all know DE's labor rates are slightly lower than NJ or the Feds. So are the the corruption rates-but DE's working on parity-they should be up to speed soon.

The Feds want the states to do the registry, they admit their numbers are inflated.

NJ estimates $1 million cost to register anglers.

Here's NOAA's estimate of NJ anglers, and it's three years old:

New Jersey.................................. 1.2 million anglers

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/sfa/Partner...umbers2006.pdf

So NJ's cost might be about 75 cents/person.

I don't really understand why Del is doing both. But I don't fish in Del so I it doesn't really matter to me...

Even at 1 million dollars to register it's still a cost.

I understand what your saying with all the restrictions that are constantly being thrown at us but.... If a saltwater license is going to improve the fishing quality by any means, I am all for it. Let's just say that they do charge us $15 per person. thats 18 million dollars a year. I for one don't think that $15 is too much to ask for to maintain the fishery. I don't think that an additional $15 is going to make or break most people on this site who spend much more then that for one trips fuel.

Hey, I'm not looking to argue about this, I just don't see the big deal with having a saltwater license. Most other states have it and you have to have a license to fish freshwater and hunt here, so why not fishing in the salt?

AS LONG AS THE MONEY GOES BACK INTO OUR SPORT.

They might even be able to put some more enforcement officers on the job and gain additional funds thru fines.

[Scooper]

AS LONG AS THE MONEY GOES BACK INTO OUR SPORT.

ah ha... that's the tricky part... The state has been trying for years to get NJ DFW money moved into the general fund. Once that happens forget it... you'll see everything go down the proverbial crapper. Before Corzine and his meddling with the NJ Bear Hunt, the NJ DFW was generally self governing and one of the best run programs for Division of Fish & Wildlife in the country. Besides Employee Salaries, all of the money for licenses, fees etc. goes back into the program for stocking fish, artificial reefs and related programs. Now he has the DFW answering to EPA, and the former director Lisa Jackson was appointed by Corzine and did what ever he told her to do (ie- ban the Bear hunt). Jackson now runs the Federal EPA... I'm not sure that's good thing or bad thing....