Juan Williams Fired from NPR

[longfisher]

Finally, someone in the media pays a price for defaming Muslims.

And you thought it only happened to those who defamed the troops, Christians, 9/11 victims, those who use the N-word, etc.

It's a whole new world out there. Balance may be in the process of being restored.

We can only hope.

LongFisher

[hubris 1]

To be fired for what you say is absurd! So, LF what you really believe in is censorship. If "you" dont agree fire him, Thats your form of sanity. Silence any opinion and critic. Your full of piss. Send me a picture of your double wide trailer. You have the mentality of a home up on blocks for the winter.

[marine4003]

Yea..Mr CONSTITUTION himself claiming censorship is good when it involves his beloved muslims..what a douche.
Go away already,your not wanted,haven't you figured that out yet?

[longfisher]

To be fired for what you say is absurd! So, LF what you really believe in is censorship. If "you" dont agree fire him, Thats your form of sanity. Silence any opinion and critic. Your full of piss. Send me a picture of your double wide trailer. You have the mentality of a home up on blocks for the winter.

You folks sure were silent when the shoe was on the other foot and those who opposed the right wing nuttiness, some of whom are mentioned above, were fired or discredited or threatened (or worse).

Explain yourselves...you total hypocrites.

Only now do you defend the right to free speech...when it's someone espousing views with which you agree.

As I've said so many times before, you are largely without principles and values which you apply uniformly. You only apply constitutional principles when it's convenient and when it bolsters your nutty right-wing cases. You're slipery and slimy. Your spineless and unprincipled...but most of all your are self-annointed defenders or all that's pure when you're anything but. Your uneven application of constutitional principles actually corrupts those very principles and makes a perfect mockery of your claim to be "value voters".

Hahahahaha. You're just hypocrits and partisans. And, you're even pathetic at that.

The whole world sees through you but for you yourselves.

LongFisher

[bigfish4me]

I officially crown you LF....... the worldcatlemon of political threads

[scattered_grass]

Finally, someone in the media pays a price for defaming Muslims.

And you thought it only happened to those who defamed the troops, Christians, 9/11 victims, those who use the N-word, etc.

It's a whole new world out there. Balance may be in the process of being restored.

We can only hope.

LongFisher

going on what was said in the interview, please explain this to me..

[longfisher]

going on what was said in the interview, please explain this to me..

This is what was reported in the Washington Post about NPR's interpretation of Juan Williams' remarks on FOX and how it defamed Muslims and violated contractual language in his contract.

"NPR officials say they have repeatedly told Williams that some of his statements on Fox violate NPR's ground rules for its news analysts. The rules ban NPR analysts from making speculative statements or rendering opinions on TV that would be deemed unacceptable if uttered on an NPR program. The policy has some gray areas, they acknowledged, but it generally prohibits personal attacks or statements that negatively characterize broad groups of people, such as Muslims.


"We have made our policies clear to Juan in prior conversations and warnings, and he has continued to violate our principles," said Dana Davis Rehm, an NPR spokeswoman. "When an analyst states personal opinions on an issue, our feeling is they have undermined their credibility as an analyst."

Personally, I agree that saying someone wearing Musilm dress makes you uncomfortable (translation, fearful of terrorism) is disdainful, degrading and demeaning. That opinion is consistent with the statements above from the NPR spokeswoman.

If you have a problem with that please take it up with NPR or your congressman. I hear there's an effort to defund them initiated by right-wingers.

Of course, any bill to defund NPR will go no where at all with a Democratic president and what increasingly appears to be what will be a congress still dominated by Democrats. But it's good election season propoganda to get you right-wingers all up in arms about values and get you out to vote, right?

Never mind that not a single one of you had the courage to express a single isolated scintilla of outrage at the firings of those indviduals cited above when they were fired for precisely the same offense. You're perfect hypocrits.

As you don't hold your "values" to be applicable in all situations, as you're utterly dishonest and inconsistent with the universal truth of your "values" (and even the rule of law) you deserve nothing but scorn.

That's what I'm giving you, scorn. You're absolutely spineless and repellant.

LongFisher

[scattered_grass]

I call it being honest. I also believe this is how 99% of Americans feel, whether they openly admit it or not. Of course there are people in denial like yourself..

[longfisher]

I call it being honest. I also believe this is how 99% of Americans feel, whether they openly admit it or not. Of course there are people in denial like yourself..

As you know if you've read my posts above, my problem is not with what is said by any of these people. You may call it honesty. I may call it disdainful and disrespectful speech. That's our interpretations, freely given and hopefully appreciated in the same vein.

My problem is that far too many times in the past those who have (honestly or disdainfully, you pick) voiced opinions contrary to the right-wing or against the wars and got fired for doing so, whereas, equally egregious statements made by right-wingers go unpunished.

My problem is with the unfairness of it all. So, Juan's difficulties are an instance, however isolated, of the field being rebalanced, however minimally. I'm all for that.

By the way, feel free to post excerpts of your historical posts, remote in time or recent, in which you opined similarly in defence of the mere honesty of the statements made by those individuals I cite above who were also fired. I'll bet you didn't make any and I'll bet there are none to supply in reference here.

Hypocrite.

Also, it's irrelevant if 99.99999999999% of Americans agree with Juan and I am the only one (along with NPR who doesn't). Principles are principles, right? At least that what you guys on the right are so fond of spewing, right?

It's just that you're hypocritical in the application of your "principles" because you don't apply them evenly. That, my friend, belies your supposed adherence to principle and renders your endless recitation of you high values meaningless.

You simply don't deserve your self-assumed mantels of correctitude. You're anything but.

Lastly, saying someone is in denial of something suggests that they harbor a feeling that their repressing. I'm certainly not in denial about being disdainful of Muslims.

Actually, the very first thought I have when I see someone dressed in garb that is not traditional American attire is that I bet that person has a hard time in today's post 9/11 America given all the nutcases arrayed against them and I purposefully go considerably out of my way to make sure no one Fs with them while I'm around.

I'm not in denial of anything related to this as I don't even remotely harbor any resentments, hatred or even dislike for the average person who may not dress like Americans. Personally, I celebrate their uniqueness and enjoy learning about their cultures.

Longfisher

[scattered_grass]

yea I hear and understand what you are saying fisher, believe it or not, this hick has a college education It's funny though, you are guilty of the same thing as many on here, in that you selectively only bring up instances or occurrences that go along with the views of your own.(i.e. voter intimidation thread) Where were you when the other side was accused of doing the same thing? Oh, I guess you just so happened to miss that one

*On the bright side, your Muslims are on track to have more rights/entitlements/special treatments than Blacks