How Iran Captured U.S. Hyper-secret Drone

[longfisher]

I'll admit that I've not been too impressed with Iranian arms anytime in the last several decades.

During their war with Iraq, they have so few weapons and so little ammunition that they would arm their Revolutionary Guards with blades of various types, stage massive numbers of them just out of sight and range of an Iraqi emplacement and then as a group run into the guns in such numbers that the Iraqis ran out of ammunition before the crest of the human wave pounded into them.

When Iraq used U.S.-supplied chemical weapons to stop such attacks they merely moved the masses of blade-armed infantry, if you want to call it that, elsewhere and attacked again.

Of course, this deliberate sacrifice / slaughter, reminescent of the Soviet rushes at Nazi troop positions at Stalingrad, resulted in massive casualties. But then in the end the very much numerically superior Iranians (both military and civilian) fought the much more technically sophistocated Iraqis to a standstill.

Then recently the Iranians announced the development and deployment of a torpedo that they claimed could run as fast as the speed of sound underwater, for a quarter of a mile. Hmmm, how do you get that close to a U.S. ship, I imagined?

Then there have been the most recently newsworthy blasts at their missile development sites. Some say it's U.S. and Israeli sabateurs. Maybe. Or, maybe they just build crappie, easily set-off munitions.

So, I was biased when the Iranians said they'd brought down the U.S. drone with electronic warfare and advanced programming. SURE. I BET YOU DID!

That is, I felt that way until today an Iranian engineer who, for reasons of self-preservation remained anonymous, told us precisely how they did it. And, his explanation comported exactly with what the U.S. has been saying about how the vehicle actually operates.

Essentially, there's both a feed of instructions being sent to the airframe all the time from the U.S. base (in Nevada, I think) and there is a video and perhaps other date stream coming from the bird all the time. If the uplink of instructions ever fails the bird is programmed to automatically return to base and then to land...all on it's own.

So, what did the Iranians do? Well, the took advantage of the way the bird was designed to "fail-safe" to subver it. They jammed the incoming data stream of instructions so the bird thought it had lost its teather and then then the bird's program told it to navigate home the Iranians overrode the ordinary GPS system with a fantasy system of GPS signals of much greater power. And, the fantasy GPS coordinates told the bird it was home.

So it landed....all on it's own.

I know. It's incredibly simple, right? I guess we, including me, too often, to use a G.W.Bush term, "misunderestimate" our foes.

LF

[NY Bearhunter]

[clt_capt]

[longfisher]

...a time when we in the U.S. felt the same conceited way about the Viets. I distinctly remember seeing photos of a Huey with arrows sticking out of the magnesium airframe and the officers and Noncoms laughing at it and predicting an easy victory over the savages who had the audacity to throw sticks and stones at our technology.

At just 20 years of age and as a Second Lieutenant, I knew better. I knew with that one picture that the U.S. could never beat them, that they were an implacable and history-honed enemy, that their warrior traditions long-predated ours. And, true to my prediction we lost and lost big.

...a time when Iraq was supposed to be a cake walk and when that utter idiot who should have been smothered by his mother at birth but for the fact that as ugly as he was he was nowhere near the ghoul his mother was said, "Mission Accomplished".

I knew better. I actually know the Iraqi character as I went to graduate school with them under a Chairman who was an Iraqi. Like us, they could perhaps be dessimated to the last man, woman and child sure. But they can't be beaten if even one of them still draws a breath.

...a time I "read" about what's called Pyrrhic victory (here, I've looked it up for you this time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory) by King Pyrrhus of Epirus against the Romans. He said, quite appropriately and quite relevantly to the U.S.'s recent "adventures" in the Middle East, "Another victor like this one and I am undone".

If you'd open a book once in a long while, you'd know that his anxst was directed not at his lack of victories over the Romans. He had sequential victories. But rather, his anxst was justifiably directed at the rate at which the Romans could replace their combatants compared to the paultry rate with which he could replace his own. Sound familiar?

Most of you loud, proud and under to lightly-endowed would do well to at least try to act like you can learn the lessons of history even if your unimaginably and undeservedly huge egos largely prevent you from actually doing so.

Or, didn't you know that the nuclear-armed Russians are involved in this Iran thing now? And, they're not merely involved in providing the Iranians with the mobile jammers which brought the craft down either, although they did.

Why, the Russians are even involved in the Syrian thing and have been since the beginning. Didn't you wonder why NATO didn't perform Libya-redux? But I'll bet you didn't know...did you? Why you're so precious in your ignorance...really you are.

The Russians are even involved in in the recently-created central-asian republics where Israel has tried to corner some air bases to both launch and recover their attack aircraft going to and coming back from an Iran strike. Think Georgia. Surely, you knew of this didn't you? If you'd read more widely you'd also know that Georgia is but the beginning of Russian moves to blunt Israel's plans for safe air strikes.

Sometimes, I think the Russians are playing this game solely to make the U.S. commit itself to another unwinnable war in the M.E. as it foolishly comes to the defense of Israel, AGAIN, when the U.S. would be better served by staying out of it altogether. Russians are known for their prowress at chess, you know.

You don't get much analysis from FOX News do you? Fat, dumb and stupid. That's what Mr. Ailes turns his viewers into. Fat, dumb and stupid.

Russian could snuff out those damned Jews totally with a mild bear fart in the fiercest of hurricane winds. And, the U.S. would just stand by and do nothing as it did when Georgia was invaded by the Russians.

There's a reason the U.S. has never had a mutual-defense treaty with the Nazi-Jews. It's called a yearning for nuclear survival.

Read more. Understand more.

LF

[seapower]

Tick-tock, tick-tock............... Frank

[longfisher]

Tick-tock, tick-tock............... Frank

...just might be a near-absolute Christian trait, Frank.

If so, you should be a priest.

LF

[seapower]

I'd have to say that's one of the coolest trait's about God, he doesn't need a "reason". If it was all about reasonable thought as you put it; I'd been dead no less than 7 times thus far, I wouldn't have the faithful wife I have had for better than 30 year's now, having the respect and love from my 3 kid's that I have, how about the health and ability to make a living. You see all of those thing's I reasonably shouldn't have. The difference between you and I is, that I can admit it. Did I mention the totally unreasonable forgiveness he offer's??? There's alot of folk's I would never trade place's with, having been the scoffer that you are in the past, you would be one of them. Not a slam, just the way it is. Hug's and Kisses, Frank

[longfisher]

I'd have to say that's one of the coolest trait's about God, he doesn't need a "reason". If it was all about reasonable thought as you put it; I'd been dead no less than 7 times thus far, I wouldn't have the faithful wife I have had for better than 30 year's now, having the respect and love from my 3 kid's that I have, how about the health and ability to make a living. You see all of those thing's I reasonably shouldn't have. The difference between you and I is, that I can admit it. Did I mention the totally unreasonable forgiveness he offer's??? There's alot of folk's I would never trade place's with, having been the scoffer that you are in the past, you would be one of them. Not a slam, just the way it is. Hug's and Kisses, Frank

Religion is the opiate of the simpletons. It's a fantasy. It's an addiction. And, holy men screw little boys.

It's all a con. And, you've been conned.

LF

[seapower]

Even you know not to lump the two together. I have come to my belief's over a long period of my life. And no, I don't believe something, just because some one else call's it fact. You see LongFisher, for quite along period in my life I too was an athiest. I do enjoy to tell folk's that are interested, what changed this very, very hard heart. I don't preach and I'm not now. As I have said on here before, something's you have to believe BEFORE you can see them.


I for one had an extremely hard time buyinf the "splitting" of atom's thing. The very reason why, is because "I" couldn't see them. Didn't matter that the technology was all around me, I still wouldn't buy it. That was ignorance on my part. There are many thing's that can't be explained away by science. I've had thing's in my life that have happened ( even before I was believer), to just shrug it all off to coincidence. I understand the scientific way of thinking, but I don't know many scientist's that don't see something just a little "extra" special when they are present to watch their newborn baby enter the world.


I also am not one of those "dyed in the wool" Bible thumper's that accept nothing but what has been handed down. I think for myself and am in no way ashamed of my belief's. I am not intim idated an ounce by those that demand "proof". You see Sir God is everything, you and I are not. Like it or not He came for you too, Merry Christmas. Frank

[longfisher]

Even you know not to lump the two together. I have come to my belief's over a long period of my life. And no, I don't believe something, just because some one else call's it fact. You see LongFisher, for quite along period in my life I too was an athiest. I do enjoy to tell folk's that are interested, what changed this very, very hard heart. I don't preach and I'm not now. As I have said on here before, something's you have to believe BEFORE you can see them.


I for one had an extremely hard time buyinf the "splitting" of atom's thing. The very reason why, is because "I" couldn't see them. Didn't matter that the technology was all around me, I still wouldn't buy it. That was ignorance on my part. There are many thing's that can't be explained away by science. I've had thing's in my life that have happened ( even before I was believer), to just shrug it all off to coincidence. I understand the scientific way of thinking, but I don't know many scientist's that don't see something just a little "extra" special when they are present to watch their newborn baby enter the world.


I also am not one of those "dyed in the wool" Bible thumper's that accept nothing but what has been handed down. I think for myself and am in no way ashamed of my belief's. I am not intim idated an ounce by those that demand "proof". You see Sir God is everything, you and I are not. Like it or not He came for you too, Merry Christmas. Frank

...if they can make you believe absurdities they can make you commit atrocities. I guess that's the reason there are so many barbarous religious wars.

LF