This Gripes my A$$

[lazyfatass247]

Big I- If the Canadian army was firing rockets at the US, blow them up if you so wish. I prefer to go destroy the army not the people.

But that is just me.


let me ask this bigI, if a Canadian shot a rocket towards America, would you support bulldozing and leveling entire towns?

what needs to be remembered here is that this is not as simple as a few people firing rockets. why are they firing rockets for starters?

is 600 children worth a half cozen rockets shot into the ground?


Younger- How do you think they became the "bull"- this is why we are giving this small amount of money to gaza. This is a pitiful gift in comparison to what is spent on Israel.

Which brings me that my point on answering this thread. We can giving Gaza money to form a sense of balance to Gaza and the international community.


This is what I am talking about we need to be alot more informed as a people.

[nautiduck]

How come when I asked this same damn thing awhile back I was labled an antisemitic monster. If the Israelis have such wonderful anti terrorists units why cant they just go in and take out the Hamas terrorists. Oh no we'll just bomb everything and the Americans we'll pay for it, they've been paying for us for ever. I say let the Israelis pay for it their the ones that bombed em. I brought up the Kids and women issue in my other thread but sympathy for them is what caused me to be a monster.

[Younger]

Man its not about killing.


Where is your humanity? If 600 kids were killed becuase there where trying to get to school and 2 army officers were killed. What side would you take.

Hamas and the like are cockroaches that hide behind women and children. They are cowards and they are the ones responsible for the civilian deaths, not the Israeli's. The people of Gaza will continue to suffer until they elect a leadership that either fights or negotiates like real men.

[GALAZIO]

just wonderin'....


... hhuuummmm....


I wonder how many of these oppressed individuals in Gaza under the leadership of Hamas really voted and put them in power??? or better yet, how "legit" the process is/was? Since our process is suspect or corrupt as well, I doubt theirs boils down to the voice of the people in a clean, fair election of any kind.

My bet is that someone behind the arms industry and a need for intervention into the region is the likely culprit. Chaos can be useful.

Wouldn't be the first time...

[nautiduck]

My point was that both sides are responsible I have no sympathies towards either of the combatant parties. My sympathies lie with the innocents on both sides. I dont blame Israel for retaliation. Hamas knows Israel will retaliate, just as Irael knows Hamas will use civilians as shields. Knowing this and bombing Hamas strongholds makes Israel just as responsible for the childrens deaths. Israel is more than capable of surgical strikes and taking out only those responsible for the attacks, but they choose not to knowing innocent people will be killed. Why? To prove a point? To show how powerful they are? To prove that they wont show mercy? Or because they hate the Palestinians as much as they are hated by them? As much as I think America should leave the Jewish State to make its own amends I dont think the children their should suffer because we have our own problems.

[tunatamer4]

I'm tired of all the "give, give, give" You know, the rest of the world thinks the US is just a country loaded with scumbags until it's time for aid.

When was the last time the US got any aid from anyone? A little after Katrina maybe, but before that, what was it FARM-AID?

Let's just show the world how big of scumbags we can be and let them perish. Start taking care of our own and not worry about getting involved in things we have no business in.

If it isn't already it will be a two thousand year war we are sticking our noses into, and we're not gonna stop it. I for one like my nose right here in America.

[GALAZIO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsLw7AiFsK8

Hamas is a Creation of Mossad

by Hassane Zerouky

Global Outlook, No 2, Summer 2002
www.globalresearch.ca 23 March 2004
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

Thanks to the Mossad, Israel's "Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks", the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation

Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)".



Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of the Islamist movement in Palestine, returning from Cairo in the seventies, established an Islamic charity association. Prime Minister Golda Meir, saw this as a an opportunity to counterbalance the rise of Arafat’s Fatah movement. .According to the Israeli weekly Koteret Rashit (October 1987), "The Islamic associations as well as the university had been supported and encouraged by the Israeli military authority" in charge of the (civilian) administration of the West Bank and Gaza. "They [the Islamic associations and the university] were authorized to receive money payments from abroad."

The Islamists set up orphanages and health clinics, as well as a network of schools, workshops which created employment for women as well as system of financial aid to the poor. And in 1978, they created an "Islamic University" in Gaza. "The military authority was convinced that these activities would weaken both the PLO and the leftist organizations in Gaza." At the end of 1992, there were six hundred mosques in Gaza. Thanks to Israel’s intelligence agency Mossad (Israel’s Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks) , the Islamists were allowed to reinforce their presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, the members of Fatah (Movement for the National Liberation of Palestine) and the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression.

In 1984, Ahmed Yassin was arrested and condemned to twelve years in prison, after the discovery of a hidden arms cache. But one year later, he was set free and resumed his activities. And when the Intifada (‘uprising’) began, in October 1987, which took the Islamists by surprise, Sheik Yassin responded by creating the Hamas (The Islamic Resistance Movement): "God is our beginning, the prophet our model, the Koran our constitution", proclaims article 7 of the charter of the organization.

Ahmed Yassin was in prison when, the Oslo accords (Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government) were signed in September 1993. The Hamas had rejected Oslo outright. But at that time, 70% of Palestinians had condemned the attacks on Israeli civilians. Yassin did everything in his power to undermine the Oslo accords. Even prior to Prime Minister Rabin’s death, he had the support of the Israeli government. The latter was very reluctant to implement the peace agreement.

The Hamas then launched a carefully timed campaign of attacks against civilians, one day before the meeting between Palestinian and Israeli negotiators, regarding the formal recognition of Israel by the National Palestinian Council. These events were largely instrumental in the formation of a Right wing Israeli government following the May 1996 elections.

Quite unexpectedly, Prime Minister Netanyahu ordered Sheik Ahmed Yassin to be released from prison ("on humanitarian grounds") where he was serving a life sentence. Meanwhile, Netanyahu, together with President Bill Clinton, was putting pressure on Arafat to control the Hamas. In fact, Netanyahu knew that he could rely, once more, on the Islamists to sabotage the Oslo accords. Worse still: after having expelled Yassin to Jordan, Prime Minister Netanyahu allowed him to return to Gaza, where he was welcomed triumphantly as a hero in October 1997.

Arafat was helpless in the face of these events. Moreover, because he had supported Saddam Hussein during the1991 Gulf war, (while the Hamas had cautiously abstained from taking sides), the Gulf states decided to cut off their financing of the Palestinian Authority. Meanwhile, between February and April 1998, Sheik Ahmad Yassin was able to raise several hundred million dollars, from those same countries. The the budget of The Hamas was said to be greater than that of the Palestinian Authority. These new sources of funding enabled the Islamists to effectively pursue their various charitable activities. It is estimated that one Palestinian out of three is the recipient of financial aid from the Hamas. And in this regard, Israel has done nothing to curb the inflow of money into the occupied territories.

The Hamas had built its strength through its various acts of sabotage of the peace process, in a way which was compatible with the interests of the Israeli government. In turn, the latter sought in a number of ways, to prevent the application of the Oslo accords. In other words, Hamas was fulfilling the functions for which it was originally created: to prevent the creation of a Palestinian State. And in this regard, Hamas and Ariel Sharon, see eye to eye; they are exactly on the same wave length.

[flatbottom]

spend the money, spend the money, spend the money.

I wish the democrats would stop spending the money.

yes democrats !!!!!!!!!!

There is another 410 billion passed in the house and headed to congress this week. I have no idea what is in the 410 billion bill...........

Please remove that woman from congress. She is using our money like a QVC credit card

[go boater]

I'm tired of all the "give, give, give" You know, the rest of the world thinks the US is just a country loaded with scumbags until it's time for aid.

When was the last time the US got any aid from anyone? A little after Katrina maybe, but before that, what was it FARM-AID?

Let's just show the world how big of scumbags we can be and let them perish. Start taking care of our own and not worry about getting involved in things we have no business in.

If it isn't already it will be a two thousand year war we are sticking our noses into, and we're not gonna stop it. I for one like my nose right here in America.

exactly.

the more terrorists' kids we save, the more terrorists we'll be dealing with in the future. these kids are born with some freaking hatred man. Unbelievable we send these scumbag nations money. share the wealth my ass. I work my ass off every day and would much prefer to have my days off to go play with weaponry and firearms. game on!

To canada and mexico - BRING IT YOU QUEBEC FROGS AND CROOKED ASS FEDERALI'S. Karma is a *****.