Gas Logs?????

[Proheat]

I typed in NC and only 2 dealers- Wilson and Tarboro North Carolina

I didn't know your zipcode
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[Sea-Gar]

Pro-Heat is right on. Vent-less logs have no chimney thus there will always be some smell of combustion. Water vapor is the biggest part of combustion. Unvented logs are not sized over 40,000 BTU. They are sized the same size approx. as your household oven. Every non vented set has a built in oxygen sensor. Carbon monoxide detectors should be kept in hallways or bedrooms away from gas appliances so as not to ruin there sensors. CO detectors should be placed to awake a sleeping home owner just like a smoke detector. CO detectors do not replace the need for annual HVAC maintenance. A CO detector should not be kept longer than you would keep your primary vehicle. Unvented sets are never allowed in sleeping areas. They should never be used as your sole source of heat. They are not cheaper or as efficient to use as your heating system. Some gas companies add propane to the natural gas during times of peak demand thus increasing the odor. More expensive sets tend to burn better. If you install these sets in an existing fireplace and find you become sensitive to combustion odor and still want to watch a fire, you may crack the flue and let exhaust escape up the chimney.

[Proheat]

Pro-Heat is right on. Vent-less logs have no chimney thus there will always be some smell of combustion. Water vapor is the biggest part of combustion. Unvented logs are not sized over 40,000 BTU. They are sized the same size approx. as your household oven. Every non vented set has a built in oxygen sensor. Carbon monoxide detectors should be kept in hallways or bedrooms away from gas appliances so as not to ruin there sensors. CO detectors should be placed to awake a sleeping home owner just like a smoke detector. CO detectors do not replace the need for annual HVAC maintenance. A CO detector should not be kept longer than you would keep your primary vehicle. Unvented sets are never allowed in sleeping areas. They should never be used as your sole source of heat. They are not cheaper or as efficient to use as your heating system. Some gas companies add propane to the natural gas during times of peak demand thus increasing the odor. More expensive sets tend to burn better. If you install these sets in an existing fireplace and find you become sensitive to combustion odor and still want to watch a fire, you may crack the flue and let exhaust escape up the chimney.

I highly recommend a CO detector to anyone who has a gas appliance in thier home, whether natural gas or propane. I also reccomend that the detector have a digital readout for ppm. I have had false alarms from some brands that had problems and let me tell you something, as soon as the alarm goes off, the power of suggestion takes over and next thing you know, the people are light headed and dizzy from what they think is Carbon Monoxide..I had a lady that wanted to sue me because her alarm went off and it just had to be the furnace that we installed.............. and it was making her nausious.............problem is that it was the middle of the summer and her furnace wasn't even running! I also recommend a combustable gas detector in the house too just in case of a gas leak.

[flatbottom]

jim I can not say any more that has not already been said on the vent less logs. I am not sure of the cost difference between venting outside vs vent less. I do know a stainless plate can replace your damper in the fireplace / cut to size. Holes / 2 can be drilled to fit the flexible pipe that will pass through the stainless plate. The 2 pipes run to the top of the chimney. Inlet pipe and exhaust pipe. I feel this is a safer way to approach gas log installation. They are pretty and warm up the room. One button to push and it ignites. Up here I use a pellet stove. It is more work but cheaper as a supplement heat source. On average a ton of pellets is 250.00. That is 50 bags per. I keep the family room, kitchen, dining area prit near 79 when it is running. Good luck in your decision...flat.

[Davedowneast]

Jim, Proheat is seems to be more experienced in gas logs than myself. My HVAC experience was more in design and installation of central systems. On a personal note, I wouldn't have a ventless product in my house. If you are at all sensitive to the smell, you'll smell it. I assume the reason for installing the gas logs is for aesthetics and convenience. I would think about the type that has the glass doors and is vented. I have a vented green enameled stove hooked up to a thermostat that I installed in our "country kitchen" and love it.

[Dead Eye]

vent free puts off an odor. Some strong some not. I think they all give off some odor. After you install a "good" one you might not smell the gas but visitors will. If in a fireplace why not vent it?
John