FORT HOOD ATTACK.....

[Hatterized]

i am actually at a loss for words....i would like to thank all of those that serve in the Armed Services....one life lost is to many....and to be a victim of a comrade is unexplainable......prayers for all and the families of those killed and injured....rest peacefully and may the SOB suffer the pain multiplied that he inflicted......

[Reel Fanatic]

Sorry to have to weigh in on this but...

Glen, many of the names on your who's who of criminals were clinically insane or "suffering" from some psychosis. Yes, there were a couple of anarchists thrown in for good measure but that's about it.

This clown who perpetrated this crime is a terrorist by virtue of his motivation and mental state. He has no known mental issues however he has displayed a pattern of behavior that has been increasingly antagonistic to the military. Evidently, the military was good for writing the checks for his medical school bills but that's the limit to his allegiance. Before he drew guns and started firing on unarmed soldiers (f'ing coward), he shouts out Allahu akbar (God is great)...not sure who this Allah god of his is because my God tells me that intentionally killing innocence is a bad thing.

terrorism (def.): a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities.

Now back to the original topic that is the reason for this thread. God bless these fallen soldiers and God bless their families and loved ones. They volunteered to protect their country from enemies foreign and domestic. Their lives were cut short from the acts of a lone terrorist who had infiltrated their ranks and betrayed their trust. Don't cheapen the loss of these wonderful Americans by allowing a bunch of apologists to classify this guy as suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). The only thing he suffered from was believing in radical islam and cowardice. Nidal Malik Hasan IS accountable for his actions and he is a terrorist and it IS important to define him for what he is because it defines how these fine soldiers left this world.

[Matuka Fly]

Sinced we are at war with radicle islamic terrorists then it would stand to reason that some muslims will be simpathetic to their cause. It seems that in this case that any one serving and having the muslim faith should be scrutinized for the safety of others. Just like those listed (by GlenW) if they were in the military and showed signs of instability they would also be scrutinized. Please I am not saying all muslims are crazy, just trying to find some common sense. But of course some will be offended at the inferance but I don't care I just want to protect our fellow americans.

[Glenn W]

Originally Posted by Reel Fanatic

Sorry to have to weigh in on this but...

Glen, many of the names on your who's who of criminals were clinically insane or "suffering" from some psychosis. Yes, there were a couple of anarchists thrown in for good measure but that's about it.

This clown who perpetrated this crime is a terrorist by virtue of his motivation and mental state. He has no known mental issues however he has displayed a pattern of behavior that has been increasingly antagonistic to the military. Evidently, the military was good for writing the checks for his medical school bills but that's the limit to his allegiance. Before he drew guns and started firing on unarmed soldiers (f'ing coward), he shouts out Allahu akbar (God is great)...not sure who this Allah god of his is because my God tells me that intentionally killing innocence is a bad thing.

terrorism (def.): a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities.

Now back to the original topic that is the reason for this thread. God bless these fallen soldiers and God bless their families and loved ones. They volunteered to protect their country from enemies foreign and domestic. Their lives were cut short from the acts of a lone terrorist who had infiltrated their ranks and betrayed their trust. Don't cheapen the loss of these wonderful Americans by allowing a bunch of apologists to classify this guy as suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). The only thing he suffered from was believing in radical islam and cowardice. Nidal Malik Hasan IS accountable for his actions and he is a terrorist and it IS important to define him for what he is because it defines how these fine soldiers left this world.

My bad---- I wasn't aware that you had such intimate knowledge of this guy or any qualifiations as to diagnosing or analyzing what was or was not on his mind----
I just thought he was a nut that snapped. I'm sure DOD and State Department will want to talk to you about your first hand knowledge of this terrorist that yoiu know so much about. This is the first I've heard of anyone incorrectly diagnosing this killer--- I wasn't aware of anyone claiming PTSD. My guess is the appologists you now have single handedly identified must all be part of the great Muslim plot to infiltrate and take over America. This calls for an investigation by Galazio, no doubt.

Matuka, it is impossible to make sense out of nonsense--- sanity and rational thought out of insanity. Your hatred is from fear and ignorance----- try to be strong and use the best weapon we have as humans--- rationale thought. I would suggest you go and read about the Rev. Jim Jones and the Jonestown massacre--- This was not a terrorist attack by the Christian faith, it was about a nut ( ok, a bunch of nuts). If you still don't understand, I'll be happy to provide many more mass murders in the name of "God"--- by deranged individuals and groups--- none of which were Muslim, and none of which has anything to do with Christianity.

[Matuka Fly]

I never said nor used the word hatred.

[Reel Fanatic]

Glenn-

You are really starting to take a nasty tone with people.

This bastard hasn't been in combat before and yet much of the media is trying to plant the seed that maybe he is suffering from post traumatic stress just like a returning combat vet or even a doctor who has been deployed to a combat hospital at or near the battlefield. This guy has been state-side the whole time and there are interviews already on the tube with family members who have discussed his mental state. His issue has been a growing and festering disagreement of who we are at war with. Sorry you missed that one on ABC. His service record has been less than stellar but for some reason was still promoted to Major (hypothesized that it was done for reparations because he had been razzed for being a muslim).

I have friends who are there. I have friends who have come home. I have friends who have come home and gone back. Yes, they have stories that make Hollywood horror stories look like a 5 yr old's birthday party. But listening to someone recite their experiences is a far cry from being there yourself.

Now if you want to take some time to read something from some mainstream sources, here is just a very small sampling of articles (PLEASE feel free to read the full articles that you can find on Google). Try to peel yourself away from Cindy Sheehan's blog or PMSNBC or whatever news source you use. It pains me to even reference these "news" sources below but here is how some of the liberal media are already trying to spin it that this guy has Post-traumatic stress.

New York Times

Just as it has claimed so many other members of the military, the war in Iraq has taken a toll on chaplains. Although they do not engage in combat, chaplains face the perils of war as they move around Iraq to visit troops. None have been killed, but some, like Chaplain Brunk, have been wounded. Many report post-traumatic stress disorder and other stress problems.

New York Times

Much is unknown about Major Hasan’s motives. He is said to have dreaded deployment, but what he feared is unclear. And officials have not ruled out the possibility that his actions were premeditated or political. One report had him shouting something like “Allahu Akhbar” — Arabic for “God is Great” — before the shooting.

But even in this absence of certainty, his case invites a look at the long history of psychiatric medicine in war, if only because of his status as a battlefield psychiatrist, and the chance that his own psyche was, on some level, undone by the kind of stress he treated.

Daily Press

Doctor: PTSD counselors risk developing stress

While investigators haven't yet untangled a motive for the rampage that left 13 people dead and 28 wounded at Fort Hood, Texas, on Thursday, the Army psychiatrist accused of the shootings worked in a high-stress profession in which practitioners are routinely exposed to intimate and traumatic firsthand tales of war.

Newsweek

Is Fort Hood a Harbinger? Nidal Malik Hasan May Be a Symptom of a Military on the Brink.

"No one comes home from war unchanged," says the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. And while those who have faced multiple deployments are the most likely candidates to lash out irrationally after returning, it's impossible to discount how the grind of an eight-year war has affected the rest of the military, who see friends leave whole and return in pieces; who wonder constantly if they'll be next. (As a psychiatrist, Hasan may have been particularly vulnerable: there have been numerous accounts of chaplains suffering from depression and PTSD after counseling returning soldiers. Hearing their horror stories, sharing their pain, and being unable to help often pushed these men over the edge. The fact that they were supposed to be healers, that they had never seen combat themselves, made it much harder to ask for help.)

Now if you want to keep tossing out religious cults and their psychotic behavior as the equivalent of what terrorists do, go right ahead. The last time I looked, Jim Jones didn't send his followers out into an unsuspecting community to shoot people or detonate themselves to take out a bunch of innocent civilians. Did you bother to read the definition of terrorist? Does that even register to you? Or, are you so caught up in moral equivalency that you just can't bring yourself to even try to understand the not-so-subtle nuances between cult behavior and militant islam?

[Simong]

Terrorist,look at who he was influenced by,and who are his friends,
"Tell me who your friends are, and I will tell you who you are."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...errorists.html

Simong.

[aquasport 170 and 225]

im sorry i tried to read this with out responding but cant. if you ever stood in a formation to honor your units fallen you understand. i may be wrong i dont have the news outlets you do. but i understand this guy had a lot of ammo for two pistols. im deployed at the present i have one pistol with (30rds) so does everyone else. the side arm is for personal protection only. this guy had much more. if this guy had more it was planned. we carry more more for our rifles 210. i pray for my fallen comrades and their families in their time of need and thank them for their selfless service. only wish i could do more. i have never heard of or seen PTSD in some one who has never been deployed. this web site is my stress release, thanks for a wonderful place to visit. now can we use the good major for bayonet pactice.

[marine4003]

Perhaps i read it wrong but i recall this douch had a serious drinking problem...and he was a Muslim? cant drink if your "devout" i think he was a psycho, plain and simple, someone didnt do his job during the vetting of recruits,and all along the way there were warning signs and no-one noticed? Personally i think he used "religion" as a means of justifying his hatred of his pathetic little life and took it out on the U.S.Military. Its a whole lotta wrong anyway you look at it.

[g_max_2003@hotmail.com]

I think the simple fact is this war on terror will never be won with the enemy in our own backyard or military. I apologize if i sound politically incorrect but just think about it, during world war 2 the Japanese and German citizens living in America were put into camps in the middle of the states to prevent sabotage. Also I bet there would have never been a Japanese or German officer or soldier in any of the armed forces during WW2. I understand that this cannot be done in this day and age, but do you see where i am coming from. Unless something drastic is done the war will never end. I apologize again if i sound out of place and I am not a racist or anything of the sort, I am just voicing my opinion.

Greg