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    This Environmentalist Action will boil your blood

    Dominion Power (VEPCO) is fighting the Southern Environmental Law Center (Same Attorneys that are involved in the Hatteras beach driving case) on two cases.
    The first, seeks to halt construction of a new coal plant in SW Virginia. Sure, there is a point that galls my ass, but it has nothing to do with the environmental claims [my beef is the new virginia law passed just for this plant that gives priority (almost a requirement) to use "Virginia" coal]. Nonetheless, this plant will have state of the art emissions, reduce the utility's total power costs, and move away from the Natural gas generation hype of the last 15 years--- not to mention providing a big boost for the local economy---- this case will be argued before the Virginia Supreme Court (in Va. all cases appealed from the State Corp. Commission are automatically heard and go straight to the Supreme Court).
    The other case is utterly ridiculous, and has already been won by the so called environmentalists (it will be appealed). It involves the North Anna Nuclear Power Plant that has been in operation since the early 1970's. Virginia Power bought the land, built and owns Lake Anna for the purpose of providing cooling water for the two nuks. There is a "hot" side and a "cold" side of the lake. It's been this way since the beginning and is a favorite lake for fishermen and other water recreation. This "hot" side is welcome by all-- including people and wildlife. These noodle heads have nothing better to do than sue the utility for something that has been operating and working well for consumers and the environment for over 30 years.
    I don't fault the Richmond Circuit Court Judge as he must enforce and follow the letter of the law-- no matter how ridiculous it may be in a particular situation or application.
    Here's a link to the full story :

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Enviro...-14458172.html

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    Glenn I don't stand where people are coming from with this stuff, this day in time. We need the power- energy. Wanting to shut plants like this or not allowing a new modern plants that meet of exceed the requirements is nuts...
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    Talk about your "shovel ready" jobs - Hell this power plant will create jobs and energy - and You and I won't have to pay for it with our tax dollars...

    I just don't get some of these tree hugger groups - do you think they heat their offices with solar power? Not likely.

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    The only good idea the tree huggers have come up with is a windfarm off the coast. at least it will provide some structure to fish around, but then again the peta heads will probably be out there slapping bamboo poles on the water to scare the fish away

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    Consider what I see as the asolute asurdity (and inconsistancy) of these positions: In one court room this group argues over the evils of filthy coal and America's "carbon footprint"-- yet 200 miles away in the same state they want to close a nuclear Power plant that has been running in concert with the environment for more than 30 years.
    These clowns aren't interested in solutions to problems, they are only interested in their own successes as individuals or gaining power as group. This same group opposed a wind farm in Highland County Va. because the bats and hawks may fly into the turbines a top the mountains where the wind turbines would be located, they have fought tidal elecric generatrion for fear and claims of fish loss-----
    Don't even get me started on their refusal to negotiate in good faith to accomodate people and wildlife on the Hatteras National Seashore.

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    A perfect time to oppose

    nuclear projects as well as anything with a carbon atom. There will be no help from Washington.

    No drilling. No new oil. No mining. No more coal. No more nukes. No nothing.

    I visited with a man in Hatteras yesterday. We talked in his living room. Coats and hats on. 58 degrees on the thermostat.

    I keep mine on about 62 degrees. I love my woodstove and the one toasty room in the house. There is something about a wood fire. Dry heat with just a hint of the odor of smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn W View Post
    Consider what I see as the asolute asurdity (and inconsistancy) of these positions: In one court room this group argues over the evils of filthy coal and America's "carbon footprint"-- yet 200 miles away in the same state they want to close a nuclear Power plant that has been running in concert with the environment for more than 30 years.
    These clowns aren't interested in solutions to problems, they are only interested in their own successes as individuals or gaining power as group. This same group opposed a wind farm in Highland County Va. because the bats and hawks may fly into the turbines a top the mountains where the wind turbines would be located, they have fought tidal elecric generatrion for fear and claims of fish loss-----
    Don't even get me started on their refusal to negotiate in good faith to accomodate people and wildlife on the Hatteras National Seashore.
    The Lake Anna thing is a travesty. There would be no lake at all if Dominion had not built it and the cooling ponds for the reactors already there.

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    I offset half of my home/ office electricity with Solar PV.
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    50% of the installation costs are paid with the Fed ITC & State Grant.
    Its still a tough sell.
    People ask me " What is my payback period " I laugh and say, Better than your 401K

    My real answer is about 10 years on a 20 year system life.

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