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    Coast Guard is working on Loran termination

    Looks like CG intends to terminate Loran in 2010
    ALCOAST 675/09
    COMDTNOTE 16560
    SUBJ: LONG RANGE NAVIGATION (LORAN-C) TERMINATION
    1. EARLIER THIS YEAR, AFTER RELEASE OF THE PRESIDENTS FY10
    BUDGET REQUEST THAT IDENTIFIED LORAN-C FOR TERMINATION, THE
    VICE COMMANDANT RELEASED AN ALL-HANDS EMAIL THAT DISCUSSED THE
    PLANNED TERMINATION AND OUR WAY FORWARD. SINCE THEN, A BROAD
    CROSS-FUNCTIONAL TEAM BASED OUT OF CGHQ, LED BY COMDT (CG-541)
    AND COMDT (CG-43), AND INCLUDING REPRESENTATIVES FROM PERSONNEL
    SERVICE CENTER, NAVIGATION CENTER, LORAN SUPPORT UNIT, THE CIVIL
    ENGINEERING PROGRAM, AND OTHER ELEMENTS, HAS DEVELOPED A
    COMPREHENSIVE TERMINATION PLAN THAT WILL FURTHER GUIDE OUR ACTIONS.
    ON OCTOBER 28, 2009,THE PRESIDENT SIGNED THE 2010 DEPARTMENT
    OF HOMELAND SECURITY APPROPRIATIONS ACT, WHICH DIRECTS THE COAST
    GUARD TO DISCONTINUE LORAN-C OPERATIONS NOT EARLIER THAN 4 JAN 2010
    AS LONG AS CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET.
    2. THE ACT REQUIRES THE COMMANDANT TO CERTIFY THAT
    TERMINATION OF THE OPERATION OF THE LORAN-C SIGNAL WILL NOT
    ADVERSELY IMPACT THE SAFETY OF MARITIME NAVIGATION, AND
    FURTHER REQUIRES THE SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
    SECURITY TO CERTIFY THAT THE LORAN-C SYSTEM INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT
    NEEDED AS A BACKUP TO THE GPS SYSTEM OR TO MEET ANY OTHER FEDERAL
    NAVIGATION REQUIREMENT. WHEN THOSE CERTIFICATIONS ARE MADE, THE
    U.S. COAST GUARD SHALL, COMMENCING JANUARY 4, 2010, TERMINATE THE
    TRANSMISSION OF THE LORAN-C SIGNAL AND COMMENCE A PHASED
    DECOMMISSIONING OF THE LORAN-C SYSTEM INFRASTRUCTURE.
    3. OUR CURRENT MISSION REMAINS CLEAR. WE WILL CONTINUE TO
    STAND THE WATCH AND OPERATE THE LORAN-C SYSTEM UNTIL BOTH
    CERTIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. CONCURRENTLY, WE MUST PREPARE
    OURSELVES TO OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPROVED BUDGET AND
    CONTINUE TERMINATION PROGRESS. IT IS CRITICAL THAT THROUGHOUT THE
    PLANNING PROCESS WE REMAIN STEWARDS TO THE TAXPAYERS, THE
    ENVIRONMENT, THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES THAT HOST LORAN SITES, AND MOST
    IMPORTANTLY THE GUARDIANS WHO HAVE LOYALLY OPERATED AND MAINTAINED
    OUR STATIONS FOR THE PAST FIFTY YEARS, AND WHO CONTINUE TO
    PROFESSIONALLY DO SO TODAY.
    4. TAILORED INSTRUCTIONS FOR SIGNAL TERMINATION, AND
    STATION-SPECIFIC SHUTDOWN PROCEDURES, WILL BE TRANSMITTED
    OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS TO EACH STATION BY NAVCEN, THE
    OPERATIONAL COMMANDER OF THE NATIONS LORAN SYSTEM.
    5. WE UNDERSTAND AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH
    EXECUTING A MISSION WHEN PROGRAMMATIC AND PERSONAL FUTURES ARE
    UNCLEAR. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION TO AREAS AND
    DISTRICTS THAT HAVE LORAN STATIONS IN THEIR AORS, FOR FURTHER
    TRANSMISSION TO STATION PERSONNEL. THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE
    COLLECTIVELY REMAIN COMMITTED TO MINIMIZING PERSONNEL DISRUPTIONS
    TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE WHILE FULFILLING OUR NATIONAL MANDATE TO
    FULLY OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM UNTIL TERMINATED.
    6. COAST GUARD PERSONNEL HAVE STAFFED AND OPERATED LORAN
    SINCE 1943. SINCE THAT TIME, LORAN HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL
    CHANGES WITH INCREDIBLE ACCURACY AND WITH NEAR ZERO LOST
    TIME. THE LORAN SYSTEM SUPERBLY SUPPORTED NAVIGATION AND
    POSITIONING NEEDS FOR MANY YEARS, AND HAS BEEN A FOUNDATIONAL
    ELEMENT OF THE COAST GUARDS LONG AND PROUD HISTORY. THANK YOU ALL
    FOR YOUR CONTINUED PROFESSIONALISM AND DEDICATION TO THE LORAN
    PROGRAM AND THE COAST GUARD.
    7. POC: CDR BOB FEIGENBLATT, LORAN PROGRAM MANAGER,
    AT 202-372-1558, OR EMAIL BOB.I.FEIGENBLATT(AT)USCG.MIL.
    8. RDML KEVIN COOK, DIRECTOR OF PREVENTION POLICY, SENDS.
    9. INTERNET RELEASE AUTHORIZED.

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    THIS IS THE SINGLE MOST DISGUSTING NEWS ONE COULD READ......IT JUST ANOTHER PART OF THE GOVERNMENT TAKING TAKING AND TAKING...

    GPS HAS SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYED THE CHARTER BIZNESS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS

    OF COURSE, ....I SAID THAT AS WELL ABOUT LORAN WHEN LORAN CAME OUT BACK IN THE DAY.

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    Undoubtedly,

    One of the most foolish moves that has been put into motion. LORAN is a simple system to operate, maintain, bring back up on line, and replace if afailure occure's. Try to do any of the above with a satelite. I know, I know, if a system has worked as well, as reliable, and as long as LORAN, well it must be replaced. Idiot's. Frank

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    Hey Box!!!

    Hey Box, you remember loran "A"?
    Way back in 67 the first boat (submarine) I was stationed on was testing loran "C". We used to navigate on loran "A"
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    Boat US is/was working on it. They have contact information so you can write to suggest the continued support of LORAN. I'm not sure what the exact current status is though...

    http://www.boatus.com/gov/LoranUpdate09/
    Last edited by Avenger; 12-01-2009 at 10:25 AM.
    IE8 says this may be a phishing site....Well, DUH!!!!!!... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.

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    K I S S method...keep it simple stupid....

    if it ain't broke dont try to fix it.....

    sure technology in some areas is outpacing itself.....and for all the R & D and trial & error we the end user are the ones who suffer from the glitches and are often forced to pay additional for what.....unproven technology that could be a flop....

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    Not to mention that we just spent millions to upgrade the network. Typical government, spend a bunch on upgrades then scrap everything. I guess somebody's cousin had the contract.
    IE8 says this may be a phishing site....Well, DUH!!!!!!... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.

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    What will happen when Osama, Iran, Russia, or Korea shoot down the GPS satelites or they croak on their own...will Loran still work......methinks yes...

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