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    Anyone else tired of hearing that we are a "Democracy"?

    ...I am. Seems the media brainwashing keeps it up stating this and that about our Democracy. Seems EVERYONE has forgotten, WE ARE A REPUBLIC. Big difference.

    Remember the Pledge? ... and to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands, one nation, under god, for liberty and justice for all.

    REPUBLIC... not Democracy.

    Here's a good little piece to educate the fools:

    Republic vs. Democracy

    Rule by Law vs. Rule by Majority

    Just after the completion and signing of the Constitution, in reply to a woman's inquiry as to the type of government the Founders had created, Benjamin Franklin said, "A Republic, if you can keep it."
    Not only have we failed to keep it, most don't even know what it is.


    A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution). A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule). A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the public good).
    Lawmaking is a slow, deliberate process in our Constitutional Republic requiring approval from the three banches of government, the Supreme Court and individual jurors (jury-nullification). Lawmaking in our unlawful democracy occurs rapidly requiring approval from the whim of the majority as determined by polls and/or voter referendums. A good example of democracy in action is a lynch mob. A more recent example was the failure of the US Senate to uphold their oath "to do impartial justice" and remove bill clinton from office. Those Senators should be removed themselves, for failure to uphold their oath and for aiding and abetting a known criminal. If you would like to help remove them, E-mail me.

    Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury. To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join the non-productive. When there are no longer enough producers to fund the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.

    Even though nearly every politician, teacher, journalist and citizen believes that our Founders created a democracy, it is absolutely not true. The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a Democracy and they repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded a republic.

    Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words,

    "Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...",
    "We may define a republic to be ... a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic." James Madison, Federalist No. 10, (1787)

    "A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men." Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

    Our military training manuals used to contain the correct definitions of Democracy and Republic. The following comes from Training Manual No. 2000-25 published by the War Department, November 30, 1928.

    DEMOCRACY:

    A government of the masses.
    Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression.
    Results in mobocracy.
    Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights.
    Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences.
    Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
    REPUBLIC:

    Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them.
    Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences.
    A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass.
    Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy.
    Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress.
    Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world.
    The manuals containing these definitions were ordered destroyed without explanation about the same time that President Franklin D. Roosevelt made private ownership of our lawful money (US Minted Gold Coins) illegal. Shortly after the people turned in their $20 gold coins, the price was increased from $20 per ounce to $35 per ounce. Almost overnight F.D.R., the most popular president this century (elected 4 times) looted almost half of this nation's wealth, while convincing the people that it was for their own good. Many of F.D.R.'s policies were suggested by his right hand man, Harry Hopkins, who said,

    "Tax and Tax, Spend and Spend, Elect and Elect, because the people are too damn dumb to know the difference".

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    People dont understand the difference between a democratic election system and a democratic system of govt. Maybe if the school systems actually taught govt in schools and held students to a higher standard to pass and graduate we would have Citizens that are capable of rational thought rather than believing everything that is thrown at them through the media.

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    Nautiduck,

    I gotta agree with you here. I hope that we get away from the "standardized" testing way of teaching. Back when kid's (me for example, I'm very gratefull to have been taught this way) were taught math, phonic's, spelling (the way it's spelled),etc... you know the basic's, we had as a whole a more educated population. Notice I didn't say smarter or more intelligent, it's all about education. Back then we older one's didn't have to explain the simple thing's such as this. I know this is a little off the original subject, but you brought up a good point. Frank,SeaPower

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    Name the 2 Germanys then name which was east and which was west
    I live in mass This is an example of how perverse the left is Instead of my personal freedom On the radio they are now spewing my personal democracy No Joke
    The thing that kills me is this The key to life is happiness The key to Happiness is Freedom The Key To Freedom Is COURAGE because without COURAGE you will live in fear which will invade your freedoms which in turn will invade your happiness This is not a theory this is a fact
    For those that don't understand the last presidency or speak of ill will towards it please explain this to me as if I'm in 1st grade Then how it will be better under the guy who screwed up his very first task to be potus

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    What site did you get that from? I want to distribute that to some people.

    Excellent food for thought.

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    Is this (quote below) directly related to the recent decriminalization of marijuana in MA?

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    Name the 2 Germanys then name which was east and which was west
    I live in mass This is an example of how perverse the left is Instead of my personal freedom On the radio they are now spewing my personal democracy No Joke
    The thing that kills me is this The key to life is happiness The key to Happiness is Freedom The Key To Freedom Is COURAGE because without COURAGE you will live in fear which will invade your freedoms which in turn will invade your happiness This is not a theory this is a fact
    For those that don't understand the last presidency or speak of ill will towards it please explain this to me as if I'm in 1st grade Then how it will be better under the guy who screwed up his very first task to be potus

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    Here's a good one from us poor folks in Mass. We have a turnpike...Mass Turnpike which "I guess" is running in the red and they'd like to raise the tolls. Well folks that use the pike cried about that, so now they are talking about adding a 50 cents a gallon gas tax in Mass, to "spread the burden." Gee I don't use the pike, how come I have to pay?

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    In case no-ones figured it out yet "they" (read government) knows dam well this is supposed to be a Republic...but want common folks to think its a democracy,that way its easier to revoke our individual rights..little by little, until its a true democracy....then on we go to socialism.

    were screwed...starting with who we just elected. but not many have realized it yet.

    need another Tea Party....

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    I'm all for it (the tea party, that is...)

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