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Old 09-14-2007, 09:53 PM   #11
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Question for you fishermen in the North Carolina red fish zone. Are there any nuclear plants on or near the bodies of water you fish? I wonder if the intakes are pulling the smaller fish against the screens. There is nuclear plant on the Delaware river. Not saying the intake screens are alone in the reduction of smaller bay fish but it would be of some help if the design of the intakes were different. Maybe some one here can explain the process of the intakes and educate me.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:16 PM   #12
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One of tje other factors that has affected the back bay and inlet areas for certain species here in Ocean City has to be the rapid and constant depth changes etc. around the inlet as well as offshore towards Little Gull and on down the beach on Assateague. I haven't seen the Slammer trout in any kind of numbers since the early '80's. and I know the sloughs just offshore are full of the when that migrate.This goes for drum,sharks,rock etc... it's just not what it was.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:36 PM   #13
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Whats sicking is the person or persons that staged this to slander a very very clean fisherie. Clearly this is PEWK or PEW hard at work again !!!!!! What even worse is that people actually think that that is what it looks like day in and day out. Yes in the hands of joe blow that kind of set would happen , In the hands of the full time guy no that does not happen.

That is far far far from a ghost net and the even sadder thing is it is in fact a rec net. Which I for the life of me can't understand why any state would have a Rec net Permit. There is nothing Recreational about pulling a net NOTHING !
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:55 PM   #14
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Whats sicking is the person or persons that staged this to slander a very very clean fisherie. Clearly this is PEWK or PEW hard at work again !!!!!! What even worse is that people actually think that that is what it looks like day in and day out. Yes in the hands of joe blow that kind of set would happen , In the hands of the full time guy no that does not happen.

That is far far far from a ghost net and the even sadder thing is it is in fact a rec net. Which I for the life of me can't understand why any state would have a Rec net Permit. There is nothing Recreational about pulling a net NOTHING !
AMEN PICKER- "Recreational Gillnetting"- If that isn't an Oxymoron what is. If someone want to pick a gillnet for fun...let em pick a few hundred yards of Jellyfish flippin Croakers and go home on fire from nematocyst with a hand full of holes and then see if they still find it recreational. RECREATIONAL GILLNETTING- PALEEESE SHOOT ME FIRST FOR FUN.
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:25 PM   #15
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Been trying to stay out of this one myself, but can't stand it anymore. I am a recreational fisherman and have commercial fished in the past. The folks I know from either side of this have a lot in common. Most importantly both professional commercial fishermen and typical recs share a deep love for the resource and it's environment.

I believe that commercial fishing can be clean, directed and sustainable, but only if left to the professionals. Certain techniques are more destructive and indiscriminate than others and such techniques certainly require ongoing study and regulation. There will never be consensus as to which practices those are and that is exactly why it should be job of scientists (not politicians and lobbyists) to do the studying and regulating.

I am however convinced that the practice of commercial use of any fishery resource by those not professionally employed in that fishery is WRONG. Recreational fishermen should not gill net or shrimp trawl anymore than they should long line or fish trap. Techniques, such as the ones mentioned here are intended to capture the targeted species at numbers much greater than what might be considered a "reasonable" recreational limit and can be indiscriminate, especially in the hands of an unprofessional (rec and commercial alike) fisherman.

Commercial gear must become off limits to recs and NO rec should EVER be allowed to sell ANY amount of our precious natural resource.

Just my opinion.

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Been trying to stay out of this one myself, but can't stand it anymore. I am a recreational fisherman and have commercial fished in the past. The folks I know from either side of this have a lot in common. Most importantly both professional commercial fishermen and typical recs share a deep love for the resource and it's environment.

I believe that commercial fishing can be clean, directed and sustainable, but only if left to the professionals. Certain techniques are more destructive and indiscriminate than others and such techniques certainly require ongoing study and regulation. There will never be consensus as to which practices those are and that is exactly why it should be job of scientists (not politicians and lobbyists) to do the studying and regulating.

I am however convinced that the practice of commercial use of any fishery resource by those not professionally employed in that fishery is WRONG. Recreational fishermen should not gill net or shrimp trawl anymore than they should long line or fish trap. Techniques, such as the ones mentioned here are intended to capture the targeted species at numbers much greater than what might be considered a "reasonable" recreational limit and can be indiscriminate, especially in the hands of an unprofessional (rec and commercial alike) fisherman.

Commercial gear must become off limits to recs and NO rec should EVER be allowed to sell ANY amount of our precious natural resource.

Just my opinion.

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Very well thought out and said.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:07 PM   #17
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Very well thought out and said.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:39 PM   #18
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:09 PM   #19
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Hi all,

Captain Matt Wirt has followed up with a second video showing how gill nets cover the waters around Carolina Beach, NC. You can see where the 300 foot long nets are placed end to end in one foot of water so that fish have no escape. He shot footage of what often happens to the bycatch or "discards" as they are tossed. A good video showing what happens every day in his neighborhood. See the video at the bottom of this page.

For the record I don't know a single CCA person or even what PEW is. I thought these videos would be of interest to anglers. I don't want to be eating chinese seafood any more than anyone else..but it seems that in some areas nets have an impact on gamefish. Some have said there are many more guides on the water these days competing with gil lnetters. I dunno..but seems like there should be some check on end-to-end gill nets.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:00 PM   #20
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Mr. Bad Angler is there anyway that your friend Matt could join this community ?????

I would much rather deal with him directly instead of in the second person.

COME OUT MATT !!!!!!!!

If your gonna slander my love my life and my passion at least do it key board to key board. Otherwise all you doing is irresponsibly killing fish for no reason and strengthening our case that there should not be any form of Rec Gill netting.

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