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    Haven't Been Around For Awhile,

    Glad to see nothing's changed. Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by seapower View Post
    Glad to see nothing's changed. Frank
    NOTHING HAS CHANGED BECAUSE OF COMMENTS LIKE YOU ALWAYS MAKE FRANK



    JUST STAY OUT OF W2MW AND ALL WILL BE WELL FOR YOU DUDE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seapower View Post
    While I appreciate the compliment you made about me being a "great bear hunter", I must clarify that statement. I'm just an average guy that LOVES a GREAT bear hunt. Frank

    NOW THAT FITS JUST FINE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seapower View Post
    What you said is the absolute beauty of hunting up close with dog's. We actually take very few of the bear that we hunt (or run). If it tree's most are not taken, because the vast majority of what I consider "big" bear don't tree they don't need to. The big boy's for the most part just walk ahead of the hound's. They'll stop and beat the hound's back, figure out where they want to go and go from there. We try not to shoot young bear or sow's. By being up close it afford's you the opportunity to know if it's big/small, boar/sow. We are very selective. This year just happened to be a banner year for us, we took big boar's only. The only exception was a big sow that the "land-owner" wanted to take for his first bear. No small bear, no sow's with cub's, no wounded or crippled bear. If it is a bear that you want to take, you are close enough to make it a quick, clean kill. Don't get me wrong here, that's not saying that smaller bear or sow's don't get run, we just don't take them.
    Come along for a moment or two: Just put yourself slipping in on your hand's and knee's, through stuff so thick the sun can't come through. Cat claw's, briar's have got your face, neck and ear's looking like you came out of a razor fight. The bear is bayed up just ahead of you, worst racket you've ever heard in your life. You are ten yard's away and can't see a thing, you've got to get closer. You have to be absolutely quiet, you must play the wind or you're gonna get "busted". You slip in closer, now your at ten feet, still can't get a good look. All you can see is a dog flash ahead of you, a blur of black, now and again. You can hear the teeth popping (I know you've heard that before), you hear a dog get too close and it get's slapped. Still got to get alittle closer, you move ahead on your knee's gun in hand. You are now six feet away from the biggest adrenalin rush you've ever had, you think wow I'm here!!! Finally you see that it is a "good" boar, He's the ONE you really have wanted to take. You've waited to get in close like this for year's. He's got a huge/wide head, all you can think is "God he's awesome"!!! Just at that moment he break's and is running straight at you, 6 hound's right on his heel's. "Oh Crap I can't move, I can't get out of the way", it's too thick!!!! Now's when you lay on your belly as flat as you can, put your hand's over your head/neck and HOPE he keep's on running over top of you without taking a bite. Now it's time get up, clean your pant's out and realize just how close you were to the greatest animal in North America. Doesn't matter whether you "took" him or not, you've just proved to yourself and your fellow hunter's (who are very selective about who hunt's with them, it's an earned priveledge for the most part)that you've got what it take's. Do I have your attention now??? If you get the chance to do this one day, be sure to drop me a note and tell me what you think. I'd be willing to bet a pretty piece of change that it will be one of the "highlight's" of this life the Good Lord gave you. It sure has been for me. Frank
    AMEN, YOU HAVE A REAL GIFT TO WRITE, YOU MISSED YOUR CALLING. YOU HAVE ME SOLD, I HAVE THOUGHT REAL HARD AND I WILL HAVE TO GIVE IT A TRY,IF ITS HALF AS GOOD AS YOU SAY THAT WILL BE FINE BY ME.

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    Don't Be So Defensive,

    Am I being "banned" from this site ???? No swearing or getting all wrapped up by me here. Just made an observation Marty, I know this is your baby. Just struck me funny how NYBH made the same suggestion to you as I did, back when you and I had our little rough patch. I PM'ed you, gave you my phone number, asked you (no demand's) to work it out like men should. Hey I even apologized for my part of the rift right on these pages, for the whole forum to see. Any positive response from you about any of the above, of course not. Yes this is "your world", I tried my best to make amend's with you Sir. Good luck to ya. Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by striper swiper View Post
    Every asshole that hangs a camera needs to see what time the animal came through because they don't understand which direction the animal is going. This is because they flat don't get yet. Maybe if you had a better understanding of what animals do and when you wouldn't need one. There is enough information about any animal's physiology habits prefered foods, to fill a library. There is enough technology to google plots of land to distingish what types of floria are present to isolate good from the bad.There is enough information from geological surveys to determine where natural mineral licks are located. There is enough information already available if you want to work! Or you can hang out on a forum and follow someone else
    In Montana the current rage is Long range hunting. Not 300-400yds but 1500-2000 yds and beyond. There are dedicated sites for just this. Today you can again buy everything you need to make a 1500 yd shot to include
    1) a pda with a complete ballistics information center for every conceivable condition
    2) a complete weather station including an anonometer
    http://www.kestrelmeters.com/Kestrel...ters/index.cat
    3) Catridges that stay supersonic past 2800 yds with 1/4 minute accurracy
    I'm not condemming the practice of using technology but in the case of cameras during the season I will never have a problem with it. They are nice to have but I don't need them and neither does anyone I hunt with. Same with a gps we all have them but we all hunt with a topo and compass.
    Animals and fish are going to be in certain areas under certain conditions knowing that will get you far more opportunities than relying on other technology because it inspires confidence in your abilities. When youo have that you will preservere to see an end to which you seek.
    Without having that confidence you will never be as successful as you could be
    btw I ran a pack of hounds for bear for 8 years. I track my game even with a bow and I don't need snow although that makes it much easier to teach others to see what the animals are telling you.

    I probably have more cameras that anyone on here. So I quess I'm the biggest asshole here.
    Anyone that know me will tell you I am a study of whitetail. I watch. see and pass more and bigger bucks than most people ever see. Because of my job my time at my farm is very limited and the cameras also let me see the skum that can't read the 4000 signs I have posted in everyother tree on the property lines. They have many uses to help manage deer herds not just to make it easer to kill a buck, Cameras surveys tell us how many deer we have so we can try to keep the carring capasity in check. If you don't like them and are the Master hunter don't use them but don't tell me not to. I don't sit here and tell you hunting with hunting with a gun is BS just because I don't use one. Be smarter than that! There is more to hunting than KILLING!

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